Comments on: The $700 Million Question http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/27/the-700-million-question/ Politics, Sports and Pop Culture Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:00:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: The $700 Million Dollar Question « An American Girl http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/27/the-700-million-question/#comment-50614 The $700 Million Dollar Question « An American Girl Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:52:44 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=17363#comment-50614 [...] $700M Question Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Question.The million dollar questionStimulate US: HealthcareClint Eastwood on “Baby” Posted in Uncategorized. [...] [...] $700M Question Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Question.The million dollar questionStimulate US: HealthcareClint Eastwood on “Baby” Posted in Uncategorized. [...]

]]> By: Mike Honcho http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/27/the-700-million-question/#comment-50557 Mike Honcho Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:52:54 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=17363#comment-50557 DJ -- Did you ask why Sanford has raised all this 'rackus about the budget?' Seriously? Either you've come from another planet or you just discovered the internet. FITS - Tax cuts would be better. Since the Littlest Spender hates tax cuts during good times he ain't gonna like'em now. DJ –

Did you ask why Sanford has raised all this ‘rackus about the budget?’

Seriously? Either you’ve come from another planet or you just discovered the internet.

FITS – Tax cuts would be better. Since the Littlest Spender hates tax cuts during good times he ain’t gonna like’em now.

]]> By: Marvin http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/27/the-700-million-question/#comment-50549 Marvin Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:15:18 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=17363#comment-50549 Not Sayin' and Gillon: We shouldn't take the "damn money" because it will put our state on the hook for a billion dollar tax increase in two years to pay for the schools and cops. Cut the spending now. Also, our student population has not been increasing much at all statewide -- there may be an increase in retirees, but they don't need schools, K-12 or universities. College budgets are going up because they are building expensive "labs" for all their "technology" that no one is renting, and investing public money in Harrell, Leatherman and McConnell's pyramid scheme. Not to mention the TERI program, which is a billion dollars mistake that costs us today and will for a long time after. We are not growing government to educate children and enforce the law, Gillon. Look at where the billion dollar surplus went --not to fix roads or build more prisons. It went to slush funds that the Speaker used to buy his votes. That's why we grew government, and everyone inside the Statehouse knows it. Not Sayin’ and Gillon: We shouldn’t take the “damn money” because it will put our state on the hook for a billion dollar tax increase in two years to pay for the schools and cops. Cut the spending now. Also, our student population has not been increasing much at all statewide — there may be an increase in retirees, but they don’t need schools, K-12 or universities. College budgets are going up because they are building expensive “labs” for all their “technology” that no one is renting, and investing public money in Harrell, Leatherman and McConnell’s pyramid scheme. Not to mention the TERI program, which is a billion dollars mistake that costs us today and will for a long time after.

We are not growing government to educate children and enforce the law, Gillon. Look at where the billion dollar surplus went –not to fix roads or build more prisons. It went to slush funds that the Speaker used to buy his votes. That’s why we grew government, and everyone inside the Statehouse knows it.

]]> By: Gillon http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/27/the-700-million-question/#comment-50501 Gillon Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:33:04 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=17363#comment-50501 You say "...our state is still growing government." Well, yes, duh. If you check you might notice that SC is the 10th fastest growing state in the US. It would seem simple logic that this increasing number of people might require more schools, more law enforcement agents, more highways, etc. etc. You also say that "...college budgets are going up." Well, yes, duh, again, you reckon that there possibly might be more students going to college than last year with the growing population? Plus, would you think that maybe you might have to factor in inflation? Government and colleges aren't immune from it. It's always a good idea to think things through before you go on another big government rant. You say “…our state is still growing government.” Well, yes, duh. If you check you might notice that SC is the 10th fastest growing state in the US. It would seem simple logic that this increasing number of people might require more schools, more law enforcement agents, more highways, etc. etc. You also say that “…college budgets are going up.” Well, yes, duh, again, you reckon that there possibly might be more students going to college than last year with the growing population? Plus, would you think that maybe you might have to factor in inflation? Government and colleges aren’t immune from it. It’s always a good idea to think things through before you go on another big government rant.

]]> By: Not Sayin', Just Sayin' http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/27/the-700-million-question/#comment-50498 Not Sayin', Just Sayin' Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:31:35 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=17363#comment-50498 The money is going to be spent by someone. We are going to pay it back. Why not just take the damn money. Oh, because it disturbs the philosophy of our dreamy, plantation-born governor. The money is going to be spent by someone. We are going to pay it back. Why not just take the damn money. Oh, because it disturbs the philosophy of our dreamy, plantation-born governor.

]]> By: mackone http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/27/the-700-million-question/#comment-50494 mackone Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:52:44 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=17363#comment-50494 I am afraid that this is turning out to be one of those lose, lose situations. That is what I hope is a more palatable way of saying damned if you do and damned if you don’t. Are we not capable of having dialogue between members and so called leaders of Government without resorting to over the top accusations and innuendo? I think that the Education supporters need to come up with something better than do it for the kids. For that matter, so should the Health Dept., Dept. of Public Safety, the Recreation Dept. and all of the Departments that serve our younger citizens of South Carolina. Departments that truthfully are very important to our children, but also need to understand that based on the income of most South Carolinians, the revenue they are depending on is not infinite. It has limits and I am concerned that most of these Agencies have not learned that lesson. Live with what the tax payer, who by the way is ultimately your employer, can afford. I have too many acquaintances in Government who scramble like the dickens to spend all of their allotted funds before the end of the fiscal year so the budget writers won’t be tempted to give them less money the following year. Maybe we should start some kind of program that rewards stewardship of taxpayer money. Nah, that makes too much sense. All I have been hearing is we need more money, take the Government Stimulus, everybody else is taking it. This is why this is a no win situation; I have to agree with you in that I am struggling with this issue myself. But, I am old enough to remember a past Governor standing before the state saying “by increasing our sales tax just this additional one cent will secure our education funding for the foreseeable future”. (I believe he was the first Secretary of Education of a Presidents Cabinet, not to mention any names of course.) That worked fine until our, can’t keep their hands of money, legislature decided to move it to the General Fund. Or how about the Tobacco Settlement, we wanted that money in our hot little hand immediately so we took a lump sum and squandered it. Have we forgotten the flap over School buses? Talk about burning a hole in your pocket. You can almost equate putting money in front of a politician to holding a weight watchers meeting in a bakery. Sorry, that’s not fair to people who are really trying to resist and improve their lives. I guess the main difference between the two would be, it is their lives they are concerned with. When I was a young man I always felt that we needed to elect young people to office with short term limits so that they would have to live with their own decisions. Things like, rising taxes, declaring war, inflation, sending kids through college, buying a home, providing for family, and the things that life consist of. As to Governor Sanford, there are some things that are worth fighting for and I for one applaud his efforts of trying to hold up some kind of ideals that future generations could learn from, but I am afraid that too many members of the State Legislature did not learn that lesson. What was that line in the Tom Cruise movie? “SHOW ME THE MONEY”! Our new state motto! I am afraid that this is turning out to be one of those lose, lose situations. That is what I hope is a more palatable way of saying damned if you do and damned if you don’t. Are we not capable of having dialogue between members and so called leaders of Government without resorting to over the top accusations and innuendo? I think that the Education supporters need to come up with something better than do it for the kids. For that matter, so should the Health Dept., Dept. of Public Safety, the Recreation Dept. and all of the Departments that serve our younger citizens of South Carolina. Departments that truthfully are very important to our children, but also need to understand that based on the income of most South Carolinians, the revenue they are depending on is not infinite. It has limits and I am concerned that most of these Agencies have not learned that lesson. Live with what the tax payer, who by the way is ultimately your employer, can afford. I have too many acquaintances in Government who scramble like the dickens to spend all of their allotted funds before the end of the fiscal year so the budget writers won’t be tempted to give them less money the following year. Maybe we should start some kind of program that rewards stewardship of taxpayer money. Nah, that makes too much sense.

All I have been hearing is we need more money, take the Government Stimulus, everybody else is taking it.

This is why this is a no win situation; I have to agree with you in that I am struggling with this issue myself. But, I am old enough to remember a past Governor standing before the state saying “by increasing our sales tax just this additional one cent will secure our education funding for the foreseeable future”. (I believe he was the first Secretary of Education of a Presidents Cabinet, not to mention any names of course.) That worked fine until our, can’t keep their hands of money, legislature decided to move it to the General Fund. Or how about the Tobacco Settlement, we wanted that money in our hot little hand immediately so we took a lump sum and squandered it. Have we forgotten the flap over School buses? Talk about burning a hole in your pocket. You can almost equate putting money in front of a politician to holding a weight watchers meeting in a bakery. Sorry, that’s not fair to people who are really trying to resist and improve their lives. I guess the main difference between the two would be, it is their lives they are concerned with.

When I was a young man I always felt that we needed to elect young people to office with short term limits so that they would have to live with their own decisions. Things like, rising taxes, declaring war, inflation, sending kids through college, buying a home, providing for family, and the things that life consist of.

As to Governor Sanford, there are some things that are worth fighting for and I for one applaud his efforts of trying to hold up some kind of ideals that future generations could learn from, but I am afraid that too many members of the State Legislature did not learn that lesson.

What was that line in the Tom Cruise movie? “SHOW ME THE MONEY”! Our new state motto!

]]> By: Jack http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/27/the-700-million-question/#comment-50487 Jack Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:49:36 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=17363#comment-50487 It's time to help ourselves. We have to reverse the trend toward ever more powerful government, and the single largest transfer of power from the federal government to the people and the states is contained in HR 25, currently filed in the House of Representatives with over 50 co-sponsors. The FairTax Act eliminates congress's ability to use the tax code to reward supporters and punish those it currently dislikes, even groups as small as 70 or so AIG employees. Who's going to be their next target? Enough rhetoric. It's time for action. Join the SC FairTax supporters at the Township Auditorium on April 15. East Coast Party Band starts when the doors open at 4:30. Main event featuring Neal Boortz and Gov. Mike Huckabee and others starts at 5:30. Stop by the Capitol grounds and FairTax volunteers at the Carolina Cafe, corner of Pendleton and Sumter streets will help you find your Representatives offices to show your support for a SC FairTax Act. It’s time to help ourselves. We have to reverse the trend toward ever more powerful government, and the single largest transfer of power from the federal government to the people and the states is contained in HR 25, currently filed in the House of Representatives with over 50 co-sponsors. The FairTax Act eliminates congress’s ability to use the tax code to reward supporters and punish those it currently dislikes, even groups as small as 70 or so AIG employees. Who’s going to be their next target?

Enough rhetoric. It’s time for action. Join the SC FairTax supporters at the Township Auditorium on April 15. East Coast Party Band starts when the doors open at 4:30. Main event featuring Neal Boortz and Gov. Mike Huckabee and others starts at 5:30. Stop by the Capitol grounds and FairTax volunteers at the Carolina Cafe, corner of Pendleton and Sumter streets will help you find your Representatives offices to show your support for a SC FairTax Act.

]]> By: TommyB http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/27/the-700-million-question/#comment-50480 TommyB Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:00:27 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=17363#comment-50480 Is that picture from one of the Star Wars movies? Is that picture from one of the Star Wars movies?

]]> By: sclawyerIII http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/27/the-700-million-question/#comment-50479 sclawyerIII Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:44:41 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=17363#comment-50479 Printing money to some extent is money that does not exist, but I'm not sure I see your point on the loans. It is money that very much exists and will be paid back over time. Like all good Americans our Government knows the value of leverage. But it is very real money solidly secured by the power to tax. Printing money to some extent is money that does not exist, but I’m not sure I see your point on the loans. It is money that very much exists and will be paid back over time. Like all good Americans our Government knows the value of leverage.

But it is very real money solidly secured by the power to tax.

]]> By: DJ http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/27/the-700-million-question/#comment-50476 DJ Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:03:29 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=17363#comment-50476 I agree with Gov.Sanford on not taking the bailout money, but seriously...why now is he making all this noise about budgets? I mean really...how long has he been in office? And all of a sudden he is now raising a ruckus? I suppose trying to fix it now is better late than never, but makes you wonder what was going on in the last couple of years. All these ridiculous politicians crying about the money, what the heck did you do with the money that you were given originally?...seriously..a fifth grader can budget better. You want to stimulate the economy? Fix the fu!@%$#$@ing roads around here so I can buy a new car lol. Till then I will not spend any money like that in Columbia as long as I can help it. I agree with Gov.Sanford on not taking the bailout money, but seriously…why now is he making all this noise about budgets? I mean really…how long has he been in office? And all of a sudden he is now raising a ruckus? I suppose trying to fix it now is better late than never, but makes you wonder what was going on in the last couple of years. All these ridiculous politicians crying about the money, what the heck did you do with the money that you were given originally?…seriously..a fifth grader can budget better. You want to stimulate the economy? Fix the fu!@%$#$@ing roads around here so I can buy a new car lol. Till then I will not spend any money like that in Columbia as long as I can help it.

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