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		<title>By: calhoun faws</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/27/pippi-just-called-us-racists/#comment-50660</link>
		<dc:creator>calhoun faws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>school choice is just another liberal big government program.  Why should my tax money pay to help send your kid to a private school?  What&#039;s next, shall we give you a tax credit if you choose to enroll in a private security plan for your home because you think the police are not good enough?  

All the Sanford/Ford plan will do in increase government and bring its regulations into private schools via court decisions, like similar measures did in higher ed.  No wonder Ford supports the idea, he is always been a liberal big government type.  

I wish Howard Rich and his buddies would spend money on actually reforming public education instead of spending money to promote bigger government intrusion into our lives.  

Make no mistake about it, if the Sanford/Ford plan comes to pass, government spending will increase and government regulation will come eventually to private schools, giving parents really no real choices at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>school choice is just another liberal big government program.  Why should my tax money pay to help send your kid to a private school?  What&#8217;s next, shall we give you a tax credit if you choose to enroll in a private security plan for your home because you think the police are not good enough?  </p>
<p>All the Sanford/Ford plan will do in increase government and bring its regulations into private schools via court decisions, like similar measures did in higher ed.  No wonder Ford supports the idea, he is always been a liberal big government type.  </p>
<p>I wish Howard Rich and his buddies would spend money on actually reforming public education instead of spending money to promote bigger government intrusion into our lives.  </p>
<p>Make no mistake about it, if the Sanford/Ford plan comes to pass, government spending will increase and government regulation will come eventually to private schools, giving parents really no real choices at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/27/pippi-just-called-us-racists/#comment-50647</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 03:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baker, Maria, et al: Mike is right.  The reason there are fewer schools in lower-income areas is because there are no consumers. Turn parents into consumers, you open up the door for options.  Do bad private schools exist?  Of course.  But when they are bad, they lose students and they shut down.  That never, ever happens to a public school.  There is plenty of fraud, waste, scandal -- you name it, it happens in SC public schools.  But those schools continue to exist and students are forced to attend them.  No one is forced to attend a private school.  

Also, &quot;rich&quot; kids are not the ones who flock out of the public schools when choice is introduced. That hasn&#039;t happened anywhere else.  The &quot;creaming&quot; argument is a red herring.  In fact, wealthier kids are ALREADY in private schools.  It is low-income and special needs kids who jump at the options.

Baker, here&#039;s something YOUR side has never been able to argue: school choice has not shut down one single school district in the world.  They have not &quot;lost&quot; all their students, or their money, or anything else. Nothing changes for them, except that some of them have gotten better. 

As for the funding argument, pay attention folks:  the poor districts SPEND MORE per child than the wealthier district -- they are the highest Per Pupil Expenditures in the state, period.  In fact, about $13,000 per child.  You can buy a great private school education for that -- Hammond, Heathwood...you could have your choice with that kind of money.

The average private school tuition in our state is about $4,000.  The high-end schools are the ones opponents of choice offer as the only options.  Not true.  There are lots of small schools educating children for much less money.  Much, much less.  And doing it better than our best schools.  

Parents may not always be perfect, but contrary to popular educrat opinion, it is not their job to teach their kids anymore than it is the job of teachers to raise them, teach them values and give them &quot;self-esteem.&quot;  Schools are supposed to teach kids.  That is what they are there for. 

Let&#039;s stop making excuses for failing schools.  Let parents choose.  Let&#039;s be a world-class delivery system for all children, and allow them any and every opportunity possible. We have nothing at all to lose.  Not one thing.  Except, perhaps, that lowest-in-the nation slot....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baker, Maria, et al: Mike is right.  The reason there are fewer schools in lower-income areas is because there are no consumers. Turn parents into consumers, you open up the door for options.  Do bad private schools exist?  Of course.  But when they are bad, they lose students and they shut down.  That never, ever happens to a public school.  There is plenty of fraud, waste, scandal &#8212; you name it, it happens in SC public schools.  But those schools continue to exist and students are forced to attend them.  No one is forced to attend a private school.  </p>
<p>Also, &#8220;rich&#8221; kids are not the ones who flock out of the public schools when choice is introduced. That hasn&#8217;t happened anywhere else.  The &#8220;creaming&#8221; argument is a red herring.  In fact, wealthier kids are ALREADY in private schools.  It is low-income and special needs kids who jump at the options.</p>
<p>Baker, here&#8217;s something YOUR side has never been able to argue: school choice has not shut down one single school district in the world.  They have not &#8220;lost&#8221; all their students, or their money, or anything else. Nothing changes for them, except that some of them have gotten better. </p>
<p>As for the funding argument, pay attention folks:  the poor districts SPEND MORE per child than the wealthier district &#8212; they are the highest Per Pupil Expenditures in the state, period.  In fact, about $13,000 per child.  You can buy a great private school education for that &#8212; Hammond, Heathwood&#8230;you could have your choice with that kind of money.</p>
<p>The average private school tuition in our state is about $4,000.  The high-end schools are the ones opponents of choice offer as the only options.  Not true.  There are lots of small schools educating children for much less money.  Much, much less.  And doing it better than our best schools.  </p>
<p>Parents may not always be perfect, but contrary to popular educrat opinion, it is not their job to teach their kids anymore than it is the job of teachers to raise them, teach them values and give them &#8220;self-esteem.&#8221;  Schools are supposed to teach kids.  That is what they are there for. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s stop making excuses for failing schools.  Let parents choose.  Let&#8217;s be a world-class delivery system for all children, and allow them any and every opportunity possible. We have nothing at all to lose.  Not one thing.  Except, perhaps, that lowest-in-the nation slot&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: BIN News Editorial Staff</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/27/pippi-just-called-us-racists/#comment-50637</link>
		<dc:creator>BIN News Editorial Staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>willie, willie, we know you! We&#039;ve known you for years. You&#039;re blatantly racist when you can get away with it. You know it! But you can&#039;t admit it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>willie, willie, we know you! We&#8217;ve known you for years. You&#8217;re blatantly racist when you can get away with it. You know it! But you can&#8217;t admit it.</p>
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		<title>By: male sapphist</title>
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		<dc:creator>male sapphist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 17:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should the money not follow the child?  If SC gummint education were a car the state lemon law could protect you....but we have to pay top dollar for extremely poor results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should the money not follow the child?  If SC gummint education were a car the state lemon law could protect you&#8230;.but we have to pay top dollar for extremely poor results.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie Snelling</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/27/pippi-just-called-us-racists/#comment-50598</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie Snelling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 03:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you guys serious. It doesn&#039;t matter where you live all are granted a free education. How about putting the blame where it belongs. Parents. I have 3 kids. When I lived in Illinois my kids went to private school.You may say okay I am a rich little Yankee that could afford it. No not true I worked 3 jobs. Why did i decide to send them to private school. PUBLIC SCHOOLS HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO PUNISH KIDS might hurt thier self-esteem Shit give the paper to sign and spank thier asses which I did and which they got. Never hurt them at all. Moved to SC son went to Lexington high, Daughter was home-schooled as she was a gymnast, and other son is in Public School in Illinois. PARENTS PARENTS are the reason many of these kids fail not our Senators, Not our Teachers WE AS PARENTS are to blame with a lot of help not being able to discipline our own children. Spare the Rod Spoil the child that is what we have done. Granted some schools under-achieve and people grip it&#039;s a poor section of town it&#039;s all brown people, teachers are racisits. Give me a break Nobody told you to live there. Crap I have 3 brown Grandchildren and 1 brown neice and 1 brown nephew and guess what thier daddy&#039;s are nowhere around. Parents need to Parent that is the PROBLEM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you guys serious. It doesn&#8217;t matter where you live all are granted a free education. How about putting the blame where it belongs. Parents. I have 3 kids. When I lived in Illinois my kids went to private school.You may say okay I am a rich little Yankee that could afford it. No not true I worked 3 jobs. Why did i decide to send them to private school. PUBLIC SCHOOLS HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO PUNISH KIDS might hurt thier self-esteem Shit give the paper to sign and spank thier asses which I did and which they got. Never hurt them at all. Moved to SC son went to Lexington high, Daughter was home-schooled as she was a gymnast, and other son is in Public School in Illinois. PARENTS PARENTS are the reason many of these kids fail not our Senators, Not our Teachers WE AS PARENTS are to blame with a lot of help not being able to discipline our own children. Spare the Rod Spoil the child that is what we have done. Granted some schools under-achieve and people grip it&#8217;s a poor section of town it&#8217;s all brown people, teachers are racisits. Give me a break Nobody told you to live there. Crap I have 3 brown Grandchildren and 1 brown neice and 1 brown nephew and guess what thier daddy&#8217;s are nowhere around. Parents need to Parent that is the PROBLEM</p>
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		<title>By: James the Foot Soldier</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/27/pippi-just-called-us-racists/#comment-50596</link>
		<dc:creator>James the Foot Soldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 02:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here&#039;s the dirty little secret: private schools underperform in standardized testing relative to their cherry picked classrooms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here&#8217;s the dirty little secret: private schools underperform in standardized testing relative to their cherry picked classrooms.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Hendrix</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/27/pippi-just-called-us-racists/#comment-50573</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Hendrix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Devil is in the details - open up Bishop England to poor kids in Mt. P, okay, great idea. If not, then what&#039;s the point other than to give tax breaks to people who already have kids in private schools? I&#039;m doubting that most of these private schools will like the idea of tossing their doors open to poor kids that are already far behind thie Middle Class and Upper Class piers.

And will the private schools now start educating kids with disabilities? I doubt it.

Face it, there is an enormous amount of data with regards to who does well in private versus public schools. It&#039;s about soci-economics, not Inez or Rex. SC is a terribly poor and backwards place. Expect the climb out of the hole to be the equivalent of climbing Everest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devil is in the details &#8211; open up Bishop England to poor kids in Mt. P, okay, great idea. If not, then what&#8217;s the point other than to give tax breaks to people who already have kids in private schools? I&#8217;m doubting that most of these private schools will like the idea of tossing their doors open to poor kids that are already far behind thie Middle Class and Upper Class piers.</p>
<p>And will the private schools now start educating kids with disabilities? I doubt it.</p>
<p>Face it, there is an enormous amount of data with regards to who does well in private versus public schools. It&#8217;s about soci-economics, not Inez or Rex. SC is a terribly poor and backwards place. Expect the climb out of the hole to be the equivalent of climbing Everest.</p>
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		<title>By: JustWondern</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustWondern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would seem that &#039;Cooter&#039; may be a victim of home skoolin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would seem that &#8216;Cooter&#8217; may be a victim of home skoolin.</p>
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		<title>By: male sapphist</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/27/pippi-just-called-us-racists/#comment-50559</link>
		<dc:creator>male sapphist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sic

I haven&#039;t seen her in a while... is Pippi still cute?  or has she succumbed to liberal feminist woman&#039;s disease?  I hate to think that her fuchsia tights are now filled with Bella Abzug like trunks.</description>
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<p>I haven&#8217;t seen her in a while&#8230; is Pippi still cute?  or has she succumbed to liberal feminist woman&#8217;s disease?  I hate to think that her fuchsia tights are now filled with Bella Abzug like trunks.</p>
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		<title>By: Silence Dogood</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/27/pippi-just-called-us-racists/#comment-50552</link>
		<dc:creator>Silence Dogood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Home School hazard does not seemed to be addressed in anyway.  That is, believe it or not, with a several thousand dollar tax credit/voucher incentive to keep their kids out of school, am I the only one see the likelihood that a lot of very poor parents (read morally and parenting wise not necessarily economically) won&#039;t just keep their kids at home, take the money and NOT home school their children?

More to the point on bankrupting the state&#039;s public education system though.  No one talks about the fact that before dollar one is offset between what it costs to send a kid to public school vs. private school, the state first has to pick up the tab for all of those thousands and thousands of kids who are already in private school and shell MILLIONS of dollars in tax revenues and credits that already DON&#039;T exist in the budget.  That is before even one kid transfers.  Everytime I have ever brought up that topic on the &quot;Voice for School Choice&quot; blog my comments always get deleted.  Reason, they don&#039;t care about the facts or having an open and honest debate whether or not the government should fund a private school system (obviously the term private woudl somewhat of a misnomer after that), they just have an agenda to push.  

Look, they have money to throw around don&#039;t get me wrong.  Hell, they just bought Sen. Ford - but I have to admit he was probably pretty cheap compared to what his colleagues might charge to another group for a similar turn around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Home School hazard does not seemed to be addressed in anyway.  That is, believe it or not, with a several thousand dollar tax credit/voucher incentive to keep their kids out of school, am I the only one see the likelihood that a lot of very poor parents (read morally and parenting wise not necessarily economically) won&#8217;t just keep their kids at home, take the money and NOT home school their children?</p>
<p>More to the point on bankrupting the state&#8217;s public education system though.  No one talks about the fact that before dollar one is offset between what it costs to send a kid to public school vs. private school, the state first has to pick up the tab for all of those thousands and thousands of kids who are already in private school and shell MILLIONS of dollars in tax revenues and credits that already DON&#8217;T exist in the budget.  That is before even one kid transfers.  Everytime I have ever brought up that topic on the &#8220;Voice for School Choice&#8221; blog my comments always get deleted.  Reason, they don&#8217;t care about the facts or having an open and honest debate whether or not the government should fund a private school system (obviously the term private woudl somewhat of a misnomer after that), they just have an agenda to push.  </p>
<p>Look, they have money to throw around don&#8217;t get me wrong.  Hell, they just bought Sen. Ford &#8211; but I have to admit he was probably pretty cheap compared to what his colleagues might charge to another group for a similar turn around.</p>
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