Comments on: A. Citizen: Floyd’s “Giuliametry” http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/25/a-citizen-floyds-giuliametry/ Unfair ... Imbalanced Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:54:42 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Hey! http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/25/a-citizen-floyds-giuliametry/comment-page-1/#comment-50386 Hey! Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:53:33 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=17228#comment-50386 Hey it's Wes Deonehue! I'm so jacked and pumped up that you commented on this site!!! Isn't life awesome!!!!!!!!!!! Hey it’s Wes Deonehue! I’m so jacked and pumped up that you commented on this site!!! Isn’t life awesome!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Elmo http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/25/a-citizen-floyds-giuliametry/comment-page-1/#comment-50369 Elmo Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:55:41 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=17228#comment-50369 I dont get any of this. Karen Floyd actively supported Rudy. Rudy is a left wing liberal con man- no one in their right mind could call him a fiscallly conservative Republican. So why would someone who does not share any of his beliefs go out and try to get others to vote for him? Obviously Karen Floyd really believes in party over principle or she is just not very bright. If I try to get a Communist elected, will you vote for me as Republican in the next election? I dont get any of this. Karen Floyd actively supported Rudy. Rudy is a left wing liberal con man- no one in their right mind could call him a fiscallly conservative Republican.

So why would someone who does not share any of his beliefs go out and try to get others to vote for him?
Obviously Karen Floyd really believes in party over principle or she is just not very bright.

If I try to get a Communist elected, will you vote for me as Republican in the next election?

]]> By: Bob http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/25/a-citizen-floyds-giuliametry/comment-page-1/#comment-50357 Bob Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:40:08 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=17228#comment-50357 Hey Walt, The point is not abortion all by its lonesome. The point was/is that Rudy cann't/couldn't be relied on to support a host of issue positions that are major planks of the GOP platform. Which makes you wonder about his supporters. Hey Walt,

The point is not abortion all by its lonesome. The point was/is that Rudy cann’t/couldn’t be relied on to support a host of issue positions that are major planks of the GOP platform. Which makes you wonder about his supporters.

]]> By: walter david http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/25/a-citizen-floyds-giuliametry/comment-page-1/#comment-50342 walter david Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:28:00 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=17228#comment-50342 So, republicans in this state think abortion is the number one issue facing SC? These are the same folks that want to prohibit abortion, force many unfit "parents" to have children, then get all self-righteous when any sort of funding might be needed to address the issues caused by the children raised by these unfit "parents". Brilliant. So, republicans in this state think abortion is the number one issue facing SC? These are the same folks that want to prohibit abortion, force many unfit “parents” to have children, then get all self-righteous when any sort of funding might be needed to address the issues caused by the children raised by these unfit “parents”. Brilliant.

]]> By: Wesley Donehue http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/25/a-citizen-floyds-giuliametry/comment-page-1/#comment-50339 Wesley Donehue Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:01:55 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=17228#comment-50339 RNCfollower - Sorry bud, but A. Citizen ain't me...this time. - Wesley RNCfollower – Sorry bud, but A. Citizen ain’t me…this time.

- Wesley

]]> By: John Cattano http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/25/a-citizen-floyds-giuliametry/comment-page-1/#comment-50333 John Cattano Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:45:01 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=17228#comment-50333 As a recent acquaintance of this website, I am surprised to find my name listed in your column and associated with “left-wing activist” supporters of Giuliani’s failed Pres campaign. For the record, I did support Giuliani’s effort for Pres because I believed him to be the strongest and best candidate to defeat the Democrats last year. Further, he articulated the conservative message of less government, low taxes, less regulation, and strong national defense better than any of the other Republican candidates combined and would have given Obama a much better fight than McCain. Again, I would hardly characterize supporters of Rudy as “left-wing activists”, as I have financially supported Sens. Graham & Demint, Sen. Saxby Chambliss, Congressmen Joe Wilson, and former Congressman Virgil Goode (Virginia), as well as several other SC state politicians (check the financial disclosures), all of whom are quite conservative. I’m pro-life and a NRA member (as is Karen Floyd) and proudly supported Giuliani, and had he become Pres he would have supported both of those positions. In conclusion, it’s quite disappointing to read a piece on a website, by an author that takes himself serious, that is intellectually shallow and bases its thesis on inaccurate information. Clearly, the column was written to benefit one side, Kevin Hall, and smear the other, and was written to scare a reader into believing Karen Floyd is not conservative enough to lead the Republican Party in SC. John Cattano As a recent acquaintance of this website, I am surprised to find my name listed in your column and associated with “left-wing activist” supporters of Giuliani’s failed Pres campaign. For the record, I did support Giuliani’s effort for Pres because I believed him to be the strongest and best candidate to defeat the Democrats last year. Further, he articulated the conservative message of less government, low taxes, less regulation, and strong national defense better than any of the other Republican candidates combined and would have given Obama a much better fight than McCain. Again, I would hardly characterize supporters of Rudy as “left-wing activists”, as I have financially supported Sens. Graham & Demint, Sen. Saxby Chambliss, Congressmen Joe Wilson, and former Congressman Virgil Goode (Virginia), as well as several other SC state politicians (check the financial disclosures), all of whom are quite conservative. I’m pro-life and a NRA member (as is Karen Floyd) and proudly supported Giuliani, and had he become Pres he would have supported both of those positions.

In conclusion, it’s quite disappointing to read a piece on a website, by an author that takes himself serious, that is intellectually shallow and bases its thesis on inaccurate information. Clearly, the column was written to benefit one side, Kevin Hall, and smear the other, and was written to scare a reader into believing Karen Floyd is not conservative enough to lead the Republican Party in SC.

John Cattano

]]> By: Mr_Sandlapper http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/25/a-citizen-floyds-giuliametry/comment-page-1/#comment-50327 Mr_Sandlapper Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:43:54 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=17228#comment-50327 I have not been following the race for chairman, but it seems pretty ridiculous to mount an attack or find fault with Mrs. Floyd on behalf of her support for Mr. Giuliani. Likewise, I think it would be absurd for someone to try to discount Mr. Hall’s conservative credentials on behalf of his support for Senator Lindsey Graham and what many believe to be his less that stellar conservative bona fides. While the article by A. Citizen was well written and impressively documented; the premise of the article and its reliance on syllogism is more than flawed – the logic being that Mrs. Floyd supported Rudy and Rudy is not a conservative; therefore Mrs. Floyd is neither a conservative. Not only is Rudy Giuliani plenty conservative, as proclaimed by <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZFieha7eUk" rel="nofollow">George Will at CPAC</a> which you can watch here. His belief in free-market principles, his effort to reduce crime, his accomplishment of balancing budgets by cutting taxes and reducing the size of government, his strong belief in federalism and transferring power from the Feds to states, and strong stance on school-choice to name a few are principles that I wish more elected republicans in SC would embrace. Over the years, our need to play in the sandbox with games like “I’m more conservative than you” has shifted our attention from finding real leaders and ideas to advance our cause; thus weakening the party. This is exactly what happened during the RNC Chairman’s race and needless to say look at what happened. If conservatism alone were the sole criteria to lead SCGOP, Kevin Hall and Karen Floyd both would excel. However, it’s not nor should it be. We need someone who understands grassroots activism, someone who has what is takes to build a statewide organization, and someone who can raise the funds to sustain such an operation. If Rudy should be a factor as many want him to be, it’s funny that no one mentions that Mrs. Floyd was able to raise more money in a single week in SC than what was raised for the entire 2008 SC Victory Operation. I have not been following the race for chairman, but it seems pretty ridiculous to mount an attack or find fault with Mrs. Floyd on behalf of her support for Mr. Giuliani. Likewise, I think it would be absurd for someone to try to discount Mr. Hall’s conservative credentials on behalf of his support for Senator Lindsey Graham and what many believe to be his less that stellar conservative bona fides.

While the article by A. Citizen was well written and impressively documented; the premise of the article and its reliance on syllogism is more than flawed – the logic being that Mrs. Floyd supported Rudy and Rudy is not a conservative; therefore Mrs. Floyd is neither a conservative.

Not only is Rudy Giuliani plenty conservative, as proclaimed by George Will at CPAC which you can watch here. His belief in free-market principles, his effort to reduce crime, his accomplishment of balancing budgets by cutting taxes and reducing the size of government, his strong belief in federalism and transferring power from the Feds to states, and strong stance on school-choice to name a few are principles that I wish more elected republicans in SC would embrace.

Over the years, our need to play in the sandbox with games like “I’m more conservative than you” has shifted our attention from finding real leaders and ideas to advance our cause; thus weakening the party. This is exactly what happened during the RNC Chairman’s race and needless to say look at what happened.

If conservatism alone were the sole criteria to lead SCGOP, Kevin Hall and Karen Floyd both would excel. However, it’s not nor should it be. We need someone who understands grassroots activism, someone who has what is takes to build a statewide organization, and someone who can raise the funds to sustain such an operation. If Rudy should be a factor as many want him to be, it’s funny that no one mentions that Mrs. Floyd was able to raise more money in a single week in SC than what was raised for the entire 2008 SC Victory Operation.

]]> By: Endora http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/25/a-citizen-floyds-giuliametry/comment-page-1/#comment-50320 Endora Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:44:15 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=17228#comment-50320 Mercy! Sic -- This will be like Ben Franklin all over again in about 6 years...when the schools of your progeny demand ID!!! If they are good Catholic girls, that is. And don't practice birth control! According to the interwebs, Ben Franklin produced either 17, 30, or 80 illegitimate children! Mercy!

Sic — This will be like Ben Franklin all over again in about 6 years…when the schools of your progeny demand ID!!!

If they are good Catholic girls, that is. And don’t practice birth control!

According to the interwebs, Ben Franklin produced either 17, 30, or 80 illegitimate children!

]]> By: fitsnews http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/25/a-citizen-floyds-giuliametry/comment-page-1/#comment-50318 fitsnews Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:27:06 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=17228#comment-50318 Wow! Feisty peeps on this one. Just goes to show our editorial instinct to run this was correct. "TIN" - Voucher Master? Really? There are no bills in SC currently backing school vouchers so we're not sure what you're referring to. "Another" - Seriously, initials? what is this, third grade? -FITS Wow!

Feisty peeps on this one. Just goes to show our editorial instinct to run this was correct.

“TIN” – Voucher Master? Really? There are no bills in SC currently backing school vouchers so we’re not sure what you’re referring to.

“Another” – Seriously, initials? what is this, third grade?

-FITS

]]> By: another citizen http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/25/a-citizen-floyds-giuliametry/comment-page-1/#comment-50314 another citizen Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:11:31 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=17228#comment-50314 What I want to know is when Sic Wilbur will disclose his K-Flo related girlfriend ... K.M. She gets around in Columbia big-time and Sic is a repeat"customer." Then there is Sic's other K-Flo girlfriend P.R. Doesn't get around as much but these two are "Sic" for Sic Wilbur. What I want to know is when Sic Wilbur will disclose his K-Flo related girlfriend … K.M. She gets around in Columbia big-time and Sic is a repeat”customer.” Then there is Sic’s other K-Flo girlfriend P.R. Doesn’t get around as much but these two are “Sic” for Sic Wilbur.

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