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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<description>Governor Mark Sanford Cries Uncle ....Please Stop! Please Stop! 

SANFORD ASKS OBAMA TO STOP AD

On Friday, the Democratic National Committee is airing that blasts South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford&#039;s opposition to $700 million in stimulus funds for his state. &quot;South Carolina is facing tough times,&quot; the ad goes, &quot;but Gov. Sanford is playing politics instead of doing what’s right. Turning down millions in recovery act funds, putting politics ahead of health care, jobs and schools.&quot;

Well, Sanford is now asking for Obama to stop the DNC ad. &quot;My opposition to the stimulus bill,&quot; he said in a statement, &quot;was based on the merits as I saw them and has been well-chronicled, but rather than engaging our administration in that debate, Obama&#039;s Democratic National Committee instead chose to launch a political attack ad against us for not supporting the stimulus plan exactly as the Obama administration saw fit. What may fit in one state may not fit in another, and accordingly I think tailoring stimulus responses makes sense.&quot; 

Sanford adds, &quot;I don&#039;t think this approach of targeting ads against anyone who sees an issue a little differently represents the kind of so-called &#039;change&#039; many people were voting for in November. In his inaugural, President Obama proclaimed &#039;an end to the petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn-out dogmas, that for far too long have strangled our politics.&#039; It&#039;s in that spirit that I&#039;d respectfully ask him to end this ad, as it shatters the idea of change he so well articulated this fall -- and to ask his Democratic National Committee to put an end to this mudslinging and get back to an honest debate about the future of our country.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Governor Mark Sanford Cries Uncle &#8230;.Please Stop! Please Stop! </p>
<p>SANFORD ASKS OBAMA TO STOP AD</p>
<p>On Friday, the Democratic National Committee is airing that blasts South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford&#8217;s opposition to $700 million in stimulus funds for his state. &#8220;South Carolina is facing tough times,&#8221; the ad goes, &#8220;but Gov. Sanford is playing politics instead of doing what’s right. Turning down millions in recovery act funds, putting politics ahead of health care, jobs and schools.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, Sanford is now asking for Obama to stop the DNC ad. &#8220;My opposition to the stimulus bill,&#8221; he said in a statement, &#8220;was based on the merits as I saw them and has been well-chronicled, but rather than engaging our administration in that debate, Obama&#8217;s Democratic National Committee instead chose to launch a political attack ad against us for not supporting the stimulus plan exactly as the Obama administration saw fit. What may fit in one state may not fit in another, and accordingly I think tailoring stimulus responses makes sense.&#8221; </p>
<p>Sanford adds, &#8220;I don&#8217;t think this approach of targeting ads against anyone who sees an issue a little differently represents the kind of so-called &#8216;change&#8217; many people were voting for in November. In his inaugural, President Obama proclaimed &#8216;an end to the petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn-out dogmas, that for far too long have strangled our politics.&#8217; It&#8217;s in that spirit that I&#8217;d respectfully ask him to end this ad, as it shatters the idea of change he so well articulated this fall &#8212; and to ask his Democratic National Committee to put an end to this mudslinging and get back to an honest debate about the future of our country.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sanford&#039;s Beach House for Sale for $3.5 Million 

http://www.indigojournal.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=563

...he&#039;s put his Sullivan&#039;s Island home on the market for $3.5 million?

The 6-bedroom, 5-home, 4474 square front home is described in sales materials as &quot;...a great value for true oceanfront property.&quot; 

This home has been completely renovated since the owners purchased in 1997. The open floor plan is perfect for large family gatherings and the master suite has a separate study to enjoy the wonderful views of the Atlantic Ocean. 

MORE GREAT PHOTOS
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sanford&#8217;s Beach House for Sale for $3.5 Million </p>
<p><a href="http://www.indigojournal.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=563" rel="nofollow">http://www.indigojournal.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=563</a></p>
<p>&#8230;he&#8217;s put his Sullivan&#8217;s Island home on the market for $3.5 million?</p>
<p>The 6-bedroom, 5-home, 4474 square front home is described in sales materials as &#8220;&#8230;a great value for true oceanfront property.&#8221; </p>
<p>This home has been completely renovated since the owners purchased in 1997. The open floor plan is perfect for large family gatherings and the master suite has a separate study to enjoy the wonderful views of the Atlantic Ocean. </p>
<p>MORE GREAT PHOTOS<br />
<a href="http://www.ctarmls.com/CharlestonReports/ListitLib/photo_show.aspx?mls_acct=2905761&#038;report=members_full_prop1" rel="nofollow">http://www.ctarmls.com/CharlestonReports/ListitLib/photo_show.aspx?mls_acct=2905761&#038;report=members_full_prop1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gillon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gillon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correction on #10:  &quot;welfare&quot; should read &quot;Medicaid&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction on #10:  &#8220;welfare&#8221; should read &#8220;Medicaid&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Gillon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gillon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, thanks to Frank Adams and Andre Bauer for clearing it all up for me. It  wasn&#039;t eight years of George Bush and six years of Republican control of both houses of Congress that contributed to the present national economic crisis--it was Bill Clinton, Barney Frank, and Chris Dodd&#039;s fault.    Senators Graham and DeMint, bless their hearts, have done everything they could to avert a fiscal crisis, including rubber-stamping an unnecessary war in Iraq that has bled our economy and nation nearly a trillion dollars and is still costing ten billion dollars a month that could be used here at home    It&#039;s not the fault of SC&#039;s poor and failed leadership in the executive and legislative branches of state government that has contributed to SC having over a !0% unemployment rate and 40% of its kids on welfare. No, it that case it&#039;s the fact that &quot;Washington has failed miserably.&quot; 
And it&#039;s President Obamaa&#039;s fault for not doing enough to deal with the banking crisis he inherited from George Bush.  He&#039;s obviously devoting all his time to responding to the darling of the conservative right, Rush Limbaugh&#039;s statements that he hopes that those efforts, and thus the country&#039;s, will fail.   And it&#039;s not our do-nothing, self-serving governor, lieutenant governor, and legislature&#039;s fault that they  waste precious time and resources with little to show for it in this time of crisis.  No, they are just victims of  that &quot;culture of immobolism&quot; that Capitol Hiil inflicted on them.  
   So the citizens of SC should get down on their knees every night and be thankful that SC has such dedicated and competent leadership.   You see folks, they don&#039;t share any of the blame for the present economic situation.  It&#039;s all somebody else&#039;s fault. But perhaps they have stumbled on the truth.  It is somebody else&#039;s fault.  It&#039;s the fault of the benighted people of SC who elected them.  Unfortunately, &quot;We have met the enemy and he is us.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, thanks to Frank Adams and Andre Bauer for clearing it all up for me. It  wasn&#8217;t eight years of George Bush and six years of Republican control of both houses of Congress that contributed to the present national economic crisis&#8211;it was Bill Clinton, Barney Frank, and Chris Dodd&#8217;s fault.    Senators Graham and DeMint, bless their hearts, have done everything they could to avert a fiscal crisis, including rubber-stamping an unnecessary war in Iraq that has bled our economy and nation nearly a trillion dollars and is still costing ten billion dollars a month that could be used here at home    It&#8217;s not the fault of SC&#8217;s poor and failed leadership in the executive and legislative branches of state government that has contributed to SC having over a !0% unemployment rate and 40% of its kids on welfare. No, it that case it&#8217;s the fact that &#8220;Washington has failed miserably.&#8221;<br />
And it&#8217;s President Obamaa&#8217;s fault for not doing enough to deal with the banking crisis he inherited from George Bush.  He&#8217;s obviously devoting all his time to responding to the darling of the conservative right, Rush Limbaugh&#8217;s statements that he hopes that those efforts, and thus the country&#8217;s, will fail.   And it&#8217;s not our do-nothing, self-serving governor, lieutenant governor, and legislature&#8217;s fault that they  waste precious time and resources with little to show for it in this time of crisis.  No, they are just victims of  that &#8220;culture of immobolism&#8221; that Capitol Hiil inflicted on them.<br />
   So the citizens of SC should get down on their knees every night and be thankful that SC has such dedicated and competent leadership.   You see folks, they don&#8217;t share any of the blame for the present economic situation.  It&#8217;s all somebody else&#8217;s fault. But perhaps they have stumbled on the truth.  It is somebody else&#8217;s fault.  It&#8217;s the fault of the benighted people of SC who elected them.  Unfortunately, &#8220;We have met the enemy and he is us.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Old Bike Dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Bike Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cooter dude wrote:
By Cooter Brown on March 13th, 2009 at 6:15 am 

Pat, ye is an’ idiot! Eben I knows “endanger” is differ-ant frum “in danger”!
James- Ye is part o’ da problim as well…
Hit don matta what ye spend it on– hits blood monie an’ comes wit da chain’ o’ slaverie! En addishun, hits a dam loan dat hasta bee payed bak! Is hour freedom fer sale, Mista Foot Soldier? end of quote

It&#039;s frightening when Cooter makes my point for me, ie South Carolina has to be the dumbest state in the galaxy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cooter dude wrote:<br />
By Cooter Brown on March 13th, 2009 at 6:15 am </p>
<p>Pat, ye is an’ idiot! Eben I knows “endanger” is differ-ant frum “in danger”!<br />
James- Ye is part o’ da problim as well…<br />
Hit don matta what ye spend it on– hits blood monie an’ comes wit da chain’ o’ slaverie! En addishun, hits a dam loan dat hasta bee payed bak! Is hour freedom fer sale, Mista Foot Soldier? end of quote</p>
<p>It&#8217;s frightening when Cooter makes my point for me, ie South Carolina has to be the dumbest state in the galaxy.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Adams</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 04:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By André Bauer
Lt. Governor of South Carolina

As a fiscal conservative I am not a fan of the current “economic stimulus” bill, however, it is hard to ignore the awful possibility that South Carolina taxpayers could wind up stuck in the salad bar after paying full price for a prime rib buffet.

For openers let me be clear: I support our Governor’s attempt to use additional stimulus money to repay debt. It’s a wise and good use of funds that positions us well for the future.

Clearly, Governor Sanford believes he is doing the right thing, and I don’t for a minute doubt his intentions. This is someone who time and time again has fought for the taxpayers.

But here is where I disagree. If the Administration turns down the Governor’s request, I cannot in good conscience allow South Carolina taxpayers to fund benefits for the other 49 states.

The issue is that my constituents in Seneca are as needy as residents of Sacramento. The same goes for the citizens of Aiken vs. the taxpayers of Austin, or the jobless in Chapin as opposed to the unemployed in Chicago. Whether you live in Beaufort or Biloxi, Spartanburg or Spokane, New Ellenton or New York, Dillon or Denver, the issue is that people are in need and if stimulus is purchased with your dollars, the stimulus ought to be available to you. Why send the money and jobs elsewhere? That is the key point. Citizens in South Carolina, their children and grandchildren, have already been stuck with the bill. Why then punish us now — when the need is the greatest?

The place we find ourselves is not a reflection of how Mark Sanford believes he is right to exclude more appealing options. The reality is that this developing spat is rooted in the fact that Bill Clinton, Barney Frank, and Chris Dodd sparked a housing crisis by pushing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to make sub-prime loans — no matter how hard Jim DeMint and Lindsey Graham opposed them.

The basic issue is that some people want something for nothing, and politicians respond to constituent demands for pork barrel projects — that’s the heartfelt view of Mark Sanford, who has and will continue to say no. And he is right. But the trouble is that for so many of us, it is easier to dress that up and say that elected officials should fight so that the people who elect them have jobs and are able to feed and educate their children.

So, which is the more principled choice: Say no, pay for prime rib and eat lettuce; or, address the fact that real people are hurting in a state where more than 10% are unemployed, 40% of the kids are on Medicaid, and everyone is watching as their life savings are slashed in half?

The truth is that we are in an economic war, and all resources should be focused on beating this new “enemy” which is killing our jobs and our savings and our futures. Like all wars, when you find yourself in one, fight for your life first and argue principles later. Like they say, there are no atheists in foxholes, and no time for academic political debate there either.

Is this war? Opinion leaders are beginning to conclude that America is indeed in the equivalent of a war footing when it comes to dealing with this economic crisis. Warren Buffett was the first to say it earlier this week. Then yesterday, the New York Times’ Tom Friedman declared, “Economically, this is the big one. This is August 1914. This is the morning after Pearl Harbor. This is 9/12.” And the Washington Post’s Steven Pearlstein added, “What we are facing is the economic equivalent of a war.”

All three pundits posed the same question: If we’re at war, then why aren’t people acting like it? Why isn’t the Obama administration, instead of trying to score hits on Rush Limbaugh, doing everything it can to develop a clear and transparent plan to fix the banking crisis? Why are folks on Wall Street engaged in short-selling — i.e., betting against the economy?

And why is the press covering all of this like a political campaign or expecting that, on Day 52, Obama should have already been able to turn the economy around? Associate Editor David Ignatius of the Washington Post also makes this point: “The culture of immobilism starts on Capitol Hill. These people are still working a four-day week, taking Fridays off so they can run home and tell constituents how diligent they are. They may talk about a crisis, but they don’t act like it’s real.”

It’s real people. It’s very real to 227,986 South Carolinians without a job and having to learn the ins and outs and humiliations of the unemployment lines.

Let’s face it: Washington has failed miserably. As leaders, we must make the best of bad policy. We’ve never experienced anything like this in our lifetimes. It is time to make the tough decision. The principle of winning the war wins the argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By André Bauer<br />
Lt. Governor of South Carolina</p>
<p>As a fiscal conservative I am not a fan of the current “economic stimulus” bill, however, it is hard to ignore the awful possibility that South Carolina taxpayers could wind up stuck in the salad bar after paying full price for a prime rib buffet.</p>
<p>For openers let me be clear: I support our Governor’s attempt to use additional stimulus money to repay debt. It’s a wise and good use of funds that positions us well for the future.</p>
<p>Clearly, Governor Sanford believes he is doing the right thing, and I don’t for a minute doubt his intentions. This is someone who time and time again has fought for the taxpayers.</p>
<p>But here is where I disagree. If the Administration turns down the Governor’s request, I cannot in good conscience allow South Carolina taxpayers to fund benefits for the other 49 states.</p>
<p>The issue is that my constituents in Seneca are as needy as residents of Sacramento. The same goes for the citizens of Aiken vs. the taxpayers of Austin, or the jobless in Chapin as opposed to the unemployed in Chicago. Whether you live in Beaufort or Biloxi, Spartanburg or Spokane, New Ellenton or New York, Dillon or Denver, the issue is that people are in need and if stimulus is purchased with your dollars, the stimulus ought to be available to you. Why send the money and jobs elsewhere? That is the key point. Citizens in South Carolina, their children and grandchildren, have already been stuck with the bill. Why then punish us now — when the need is the greatest?</p>
<p>The place we find ourselves is not a reflection of how Mark Sanford believes he is right to exclude more appealing options. The reality is that this developing spat is rooted in the fact that Bill Clinton, Barney Frank, and Chris Dodd sparked a housing crisis by pushing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to make sub-prime loans — no matter how hard Jim DeMint and Lindsey Graham opposed them.</p>
<p>The basic issue is that some people want something for nothing, and politicians respond to constituent demands for pork barrel projects — that’s the heartfelt view of Mark Sanford, who has and will continue to say no. And he is right. But the trouble is that for so many of us, it is easier to dress that up and say that elected officials should fight so that the people who elect them have jobs and are able to feed and educate their children.</p>
<p>So, which is the more principled choice: Say no, pay for prime rib and eat lettuce; or, address the fact that real people are hurting in a state where more than 10% are unemployed, 40% of the kids are on Medicaid, and everyone is watching as their life savings are slashed in half?</p>
<p>The truth is that we are in an economic war, and all resources should be focused on beating this new “enemy” which is killing our jobs and our savings and our futures. Like all wars, when you find yourself in one, fight for your life first and argue principles later. Like they say, there are no atheists in foxholes, and no time for academic political debate there either.</p>
<p>Is this war? Opinion leaders are beginning to conclude that America is indeed in the equivalent of a war footing when it comes to dealing with this economic crisis. Warren Buffett was the first to say it earlier this week. Then yesterday, the New York Times’ Tom Friedman declared, “Economically, this is the big one. This is August 1914. This is the morning after Pearl Harbor. This is 9/12.” And the Washington Post’s Steven Pearlstein added, “What we are facing is the economic equivalent of a war.”</p>
<p>All three pundits posed the same question: If we’re at war, then why aren’t people acting like it? Why isn’t the Obama administration, instead of trying to score hits on Rush Limbaugh, doing everything it can to develop a clear and transparent plan to fix the banking crisis? Why are folks on Wall Street engaged in short-selling — i.e., betting against the economy?</p>
<p>And why is the press covering all of this like a political campaign or expecting that, on Day 52, Obama should have already been able to turn the economy around? Associate Editor David Ignatius of the Washington Post also makes this point: “The culture of immobilism starts on Capitol Hill. These people are still working a four-day week, taking Fridays off so they can run home and tell constituents how diligent they are. They may talk about a crisis, but they don’t act like it’s real.”</p>
<p>It’s real people. It’s very real to 227,986 South Carolinians without a job and having to learn the ins and outs and humiliations of the unemployment lines.</p>
<p>Let’s face it: Washington has failed miserably. As leaders, we must make the best of bad policy. We’ve never experienced anything like this in our lifetimes. It is time to make the tough decision. The principle of winning the war wins the argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Mab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not me.  It&#039;s the patients.  Some of the are just psycho.</description>
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		<title>By: James the Foot Soldier</title>
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		<dc:creator>James the Foot Soldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and Mab...how are those sponge bath skills?</description>
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		<title>By: James the Foot Soldier</title>
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		<dc:creator>James the Foot Soldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sir Brown,

First, the U.S. Congress appropriated the stimulus package.
Second, the President signed the legislation into law.
Third, our legislators are going to spend every fukin&#039; (pardon my french) dime of it no matter what Governor Sanford&#039;s posturing suggests.

My suggestions funnel the stimulus dollars into revenue streams for the next generation of South Carolinians since THAT is the generation that will be forced to pay it back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sir Brown,</p>
<p>First, the U.S. Congress appropriated the stimulus package.<br />
Second, the President signed the legislation into law.<br />
Third, our legislators are going to spend every fukin&#8217; (pardon my french) dime of it no matter what Governor Sanford&#8217;s posturing suggests.</p>
<p>My suggestions funnel the stimulus dollars into revenue streams for the next generation of South Carolinians since THAT is the generation that will be forced to pay it back.</p>
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		<title>By: RonPaulWasRight</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sherrie!  Does Ron Paul know about you?  He would be so proud!  

Glad they are still teaching economics somewhere in the U.S. of America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sherrie!  Does Ron Paul know about you?  He would be so proud!  </p>
<p>Glad they are still teaching economics somewhere in the U.S. of America.</p>
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