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		<title>By: liz</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/09/sick-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-49044</link>
		<dc:creator>liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not been allowed due process in this state. Due Process is not observed on a regular basis in South Carolina. Don&#039;t kid and fool yourselves. The law protects criminals, taunts victims and basically is invalid. I know I know, that means anarachy.
If you lived in my world, yep anarachy describes it pretty good. You see, it just depends on WHO commits the crime as to whether or not it gets noticed and dealt with.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not been allowed due process in this state. Due Process is not observed on a regular basis in South Carolina. Don&#8217;t kid and fool yourselves. The law protects criminals, taunts victims and basically is invalid. I know I know, that means anarachy.<br />
If you lived in my world, yep anarachy describes it pretty good. You see, it just depends on WHO commits the crime as to whether or not it gets noticed and dealt with&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/09/sick-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-49018</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch!  Help lighten up.  We get it.  Due process is cool. Some people are just tired of hearing this type of stuff.  The people I know love their kids so much that when they hear this stuff they get enraged.  Welcome to fatherhood Willie.  Don&#039;t usually write about this sort of stuff?   Now you will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch!  Help lighten up.  We get it.  Due process is cool. Some people are just tired of hearing this type of stuff.  The people I know love their kids so much that when they hear this stuff they get enraged.  Welcome to fatherhood Willie.  Don&#8217;t usually write about this sort of stuff?   Now you will.</p>
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		<title>By: Help needed.</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/09/sick-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-49009</link>
		<dc:creator>Help needed.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess anyone&#039;s view of due process can be a matter of perspective.  For instance, you probably liked the concept of due process when you were arrested for CDV, didn&#039;t you?  The shoe on the other foot, as it were.  What if the judge would have given you swift &quot;Old Testiment-style&quot; justice under that scenario?  You offered a guilty plea so guilt wasn&#039;t even questioned.  According to Hammurabi, her father could have beaten you to death with a bat on the statehouse steps.  Sorry Will, just trying to make a point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess anyone&#8217;s view of due process can be a matter of perspective.  For instance, you probably liked the concept of due process when you were arrested for CDV, didn&#8217;t you?  The shoe on the other foot, as it were.  What if the judge would have given you swift &#8220;Old Testiment-style&#8221; justice under that scenario?  You offered a guilty plea so guilt wasn&#8217;t even questioned.  According to Hammurabi, her father could have beaten you to death with a bat on the statehouse steps.  Sorry Will, just trying to make a point.</p>
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		<title>By: Selena</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/09/sick-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-48989</link>
		<dc:creator>Selena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm.  Thank you for enlightening me.  Clearly I misunderstood everything you were saying when I pointed out your ignorance as to one part of your post here.

I almost feel as if there&#039;s no point to continue, because well, there&#039;s no point.  You didn&#039;t appreciate the verbal spanking you were given and decided instead to misdirect to your other points, which I didn&#039;t even happen to touch upon.

Look, absolutely you are entitled to your points that you so non-eloquently discussed in your above response - and, in fact, I might even agree with you - but the fact remains that this original post is woefully misinformed. 

Let me ask you this - and watch out!  It might spurn you to actually think intellectually about something - is what you are advocating for when you say, and I quote, &quot;trial judges should have the option of considering the death penalty for infant murders by abuse or neglect&quot; activist judges?

OOh!  I said activist judges.  And let&#039;s face facts, that&#039;s exactly what you are advocating for with that thought.  

So, again, I have no problem with your personal opinions.  I have to wonder though, do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm.  Thank you for enlightening me.  Clearly I misunderstood everything you were saying when I pointed out your ignorance as to one part of your post here.</p>
<p>I almost feel as if there&#8217;s no point to continue, because well, there&#8217;s no point.  You didn&#8217;t appreciate the verbal spanking you were given and decided instead to misdirect to your other points, which I didn&#8217;t even happen to touch upon.</p>
<p>Look, absolutely you are entitled to your points that you so non-eloquently discussed in your above response &#8211; and, in fact, I might even agree with you &#8211; but the fact remains that this original post is woefully misinformed. </p>
<p>Let me ask you this &#8211; and watch out!  It might spurn you to actually think intellectually about something &#8211; is what you are advocating for when you say, and I quote, &#8220;trial judges should have the option of considering the death penalty for infant murders by abuse or neglect&#8221; activist judges?</p>
<p>OOh!  I said activist judges.  And let&#8217;s face facts, that&#8217;s exactly what you are advocating for with that thought.  </p>
<p>So, again, I have no problem with your personal opinions.  I have to wonder though, do you?</p>
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		<title>By: Earl Capps</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/09/sick-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-48976</link>
		<dc:creator>Earl Capps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will apologize for suggesting they be shot.

Public hanging seems more fitting, and in discouraging others from such inhuman behavior, more informative.  Kind of like the days when Charleston hung pirates at what is now the Battery to address the problem of criminal recidivism among some in the region&#039;s nautical community.

Death by callous indifference is the same as first degree murder.  If they don&#039;t care about the lives of others, I would suppose they wouldn&#039;t mind it terribly if we snuffed their asses out with just as much regard.

Hang &#039;em and I&#039;ll pay for the rope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will apologize for suggesting they be shot.</p>
<p>Public hanging seems more fitting, and in discouraging others from such inhuman behavior, more informative.  Kind of like the days when Charleston hung pirates at what is now the Battery to address the problem of criminal recidivism among some in the region&#8217;s nautical community.</p>
<p>Death by callous indifference is the same as first degree murder.  If they don&#8217;t care about the lives of others, I would suppose they wouldn&#8217;t mind it terribly if we snuffed their asses out with just as much regard.</p>
<p>Hang &#8216;em and I&#8217;ll pay for the rope.</p>
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		<title>By: fitsnews</title>
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		<dc:creator>fitsnews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s just the problem - if mandated &quot;parental counseling&quot; is what the &quot;process&quot; calls for in this case, then with all due respect, Help, the process is tragically FUBAR.

Our &quot;process&quot; would call for swift, Old Testament-style justice.

-FITS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s just the problem &#8211; if mandated &#8220;parental counseling&#8221; is what the &#8220;process&#8221; calls for in this case, then with all due respect, Help, the process is tragically FUBAR.</p>
<p>Our &#8220;process&#8221; would call for swift, Old Testament-style justice.</p>
<p>-FITS</p>
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		<title>By: Help needed.</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/09/sick-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-48971</link>
		<dc:creator>Help needed.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sic,

Putting opinions aside, I can see why someone might get the impression that you don&#039;t understand the process by looking at your post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sic,</p>
<p>Putting opinions aside, I can see why someone might get the impression that you don&#8217;t understand the process by looking at your post.</p>
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		<title>By: fitsnews</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/09/sick-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-48969</link>
		<dc:creator>fitsnews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Selena-

We do have the &quot;medium.&quot; Thank you for acknowledging that.

And yes, we suppose props are due to our judicial system for taking these children away from these parts after one of them STARVED TO DEATH and another would up in intensive care.

Listen, since you were obviously too wrapped up in your sanctimonious bitching and moaning to even notice what we wrote, we&#039;ll repeat it for you.

Our point is simple - ordering these people into parenting classes paid for by the state is ridiculous under the circumstances.

We stand by that point.

Our other point was also simple - that trial judges should have the option of considering the death penalty for infant murders by abuse or neglect.

We stand by that point as well.

Again, if you don&#039;t like the way we make our points, then by all means go back to reading the Daily Kos. But don&#039;t come on here and call us &quot;misinformed,&quot; or else we shall be forced to rhetorically thrash you once more.

Then again, some people like it when we spank them, so there&#039;s that.

-FITS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Selena-</p>
<p>We do have the &#8220;medium.&#8221; Thank you for acknowledging that.</p>
<p>And yes, we suppose props are due to our judicial system for taking these children away from these parts after one of them STARVED TO DEATH and another would up in intensive care.</p>
<p>Listen, since you were obviously too wrapped up in your sanctimonious bitching and moaning to even notice what we wrote, we&#8217;ll repeat it for you.</p>
<p>Our point is simple &#8211; ordering these people into parenting classes paid for by the state is ridiculous under the circumstances.</p>
<p>We stand by that point.</p>
<p>Our other point was also simple &#8211; that trial judges should have the option of considering the death penalty for infant murders by abuse or neglect.</p>
<p>We stand by that point as well.</p>
<p>Again, if you don&#8217;t like the way we make our points, then by all means go back to reading the Daily Kos. But don&#8217;t come on here and call us &#8220;misinformed,&#8221; or else we shall be forced to rhetorically thrash you once more.</p>
<p>Then again, some people like it when we spank them, so there&#8217;s that.</p>
<p>-FITS</p>
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		<title>By: Selena</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/03/09/sick-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-48967</link>
		<dc:creator>Selena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why exactly is the Judge out of his mind?  It would be nice, since you have the medium, if you would actually educate yourself on certain topics before writing up a knee-jerk response.  More well thought out, educated posts would lend much more credence to what you&#039;re trying to do here. 

The parental rights will most likely be terminated, as they should.  These people clearly have no concept of humanity or empathy that most humans learn early on from childhood.  Because of this, a guardian at litem (for the children) will be appointed, DSS will do their part of the case, and the Judge will work together to determine what is in the best interest of the child.  A lot of people criticize our judicial process while lamenting those who criticize America for not being perfect.  You can&#039;t have it both ways.  We have a pretty amazing judicial system - the very one that took the children away from these parents.  

It is not for individual Americans to take matters of the law into their own hands. The judicial system isn&#039;t perfect, but I would prefer to see your criticism pointed in the right direction.

It&#039;s a shame you often post and discuss topics on which you&#039;re woefully misinformed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why exactly is the Judge out of his mind?  It would be nice, since you have the medium, if you would actually educate yourself on certain topics before writing up a knee-jerk response.  More well thought out, educated posts would lend much more credence to what you&#8217;re trying to do here. </p>
<p>The parental rights will most likely be terminated, as they should.  These people clearly have no concept of humanity or empathy that most humans learn early on from childhood.  Because of this, a guardian at litem (for the children) will be appointed, DSS will do their part of the case, and the Judge will work together to determine what is in the best interest of the child.  A lot of people criticize our judicial process while lamenting those who criticize America for not being perfect.  You can&#8217;t have it both ways.  We have a pretty amazing judicial system &#8211; the very one that took the children away from these parents.  </p>
<p>It is not for individual Americans to take matters of the law into their own hands. The judicial system isn&#8217;t perfect, but I would prefer to see your criticism pointed in the right direction.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame you often post and discuss topics on which you&#8217;re woefully misinformed.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the above posted responses.  Due Process should be allowed to operate.  You may check with our DSS, however.  Our South Carolina termination of parental rights system is one of the slowest in the nation.  Getting court time is a problem.  I can&#039;t believe I am going to say this, but we need more family court judges.  

The burn out rate for the DSS workers is horrible.  Part of the problem is no one wants to be the heavy and say, &quot;You are too stupid to parent a child.&quot; I agree with your statement that the term &quot;parent&quot; should not be used in this case.  These two were only the providers of the genetic material for these children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the above posted responses.  Due Process should be allowed to operate.  You may check with our DSS, however.  Our South Carolina termination of parental rights system is one of the slowest in the nation.  Getting court time is a problem.  I can&#8217;t believe I am going to say this, but we need more family court judges.  </p>
<p>The burn out rate for the DSS workers is horrible.  Part of the problem is no one wants to be the heavy and say, &#8220;You are too stupid to parent a child.&#8221; I agree with your statement that the term &#8220;parent&#8221; should not be used in this case.  These two were only the providers of the genetic material for these children.</p>
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