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		<title>By: James the Foot Soldier</title>
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		<dc:creator>James the Foot Soldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BIN, you ignorant slut - I hate to correct you (again) but world class golfers know how to shape their shots depending on the situation - go back to the practice range and leave the golf to the true professionals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BIN, you ignorant slut &#8211; I hate to correct you (again) but world class golfers know how to shape their shots depending on the situation &#8211; go back to the practice range and leave the golf to the true professionals.</p>
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		<title>By: BIN News Editorial Staff</title>
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		<dc:creator>BIN News Editorial Staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BIN News Staff spent hours today discussing a serious question.

If sic(k) willie learned golf, would he be a slicer or a hooker? 

We are sure it would be impossible for him to hit the ball straight.

A slicer starts his ball to the left and it then goes right.  A hooker starts his ball to the right and then it goes left.  Confusing? 

It takes practice to hit straight balls. And willie can&#039;t hit straight balls.

But, if willie had enough practice balls, maybe he could shoot straight.

Right now we can never tell if willie is a slicer or a hooker.

He does not have enough balls.

BIN News Editorial Staff
Flair and Balanced</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BIN News Staff spent hours today discussing a serious question.</p>
<p>If sic(k) willie learned golf, would he be a slicer or a hooker? </p>
<p>We are sure it would be impossible for him to hit the ball straight.</p>
<p>A slicer starts his ball to the left and it then goes right.  A hooker starts his ball to the right and then it goes left.  Confusing? </p>
<p>It takes practice to hit straight balls. And willie can&#8217;t hit straight balls.</p>
<p>But, if willie had enough practice balls, maybe he could shoot straight.</p>
<p>Right now we can never tell if willie is a slicer or a hooker.</p>
<p>He does not have enough balls.</p>
<p>BIN News Editorial Staff<br />
Flair and Balanced</p>
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		<title>By: liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the most egregious example of taxpayer waste and bureaucratic tone-deafness ???????????????? HUH?
I told you about a group of people stealing Social Security money for twenty plus years. You think that&#039;s ok&gt;???
THAT&quot;S EGREGIOUS&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the most egregious example of taxpayer waste and bureaucratic tone-deafness ???????????????? HUH?<br />
I told you about a group of people stealing Social Security money for twenty plus years. You think that&#8217;s ok&gt;???<br />
THAT&#8221;S EGREGIOUS&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Nope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too think the whole thing is crazily indefensible.  Then again, I think all money for all sports should be redirected to the classroom if there&#039;s not enough money to pay for teachers.  I know sports are valuable but they aren&#039;t the schools&#039; fundamental mission.

But it is CERTAINLY not the fault of the &quot;public education bureaucracy.&quot;  This one is the Board&#039;s.  They need to be removed if they were stupid enough to be led by the Superintendent into such a lame-brained decision, and they need to be removed if they did it on their own.  Lay off the educrats and put the blame where it belongs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too think the whole thing is crazily indefensible.  Then again, I think all money for all sports should be redirected to the classroom if there&#8217;s not enough money to pay for teachers.  I know sports are valuable but they aren&#8217;t the schools&#8217; fundamental mission.</p>
<p>But it is CERTAINLY not the fault of the &#8220;public education bureaucracy.&#8221;  This one is the Board&#8217;s.  They need to be removed if they were stupid enough to be led by the Superintendent into such a lame-brained decision, and they need to be removed if they did it on their own.  Lay off the educrats and put the blame where it belongs.</p>
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		<title>By: PalmettoCPA</title>
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		<dc:creator>PalmettoCPA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anthony,

While there are certainly logisical problems, this whole situation is indefensible.  From the SHJ article, only two of the other six districts in the county even pay for their golf teams, and the most expensive is Dorman paying $1,000/year for Carolina Country Club.  Even by those standards, $5,000 yearly is expensive, but not outrageous.  

What irritates me is spending that kind of money ($200,000) on capital improvements at an exclusive private club.  The only way this would be remotely defensible would be if the course was open to any District 7 student.  The golf team already discourages anyone from trying out who doesn&#039;t already have a handicap in the teens, and most of those kids are already members at CCS.  

At the end of the day, I&#039;ve defended public education (especially in Spartanburg) for quite some time, but after these shenanigans it&#039;s especially tough to do so.  We basically have the trustees and Superintendent subsidizing their private country club with taxpayer money.  The waste has become so egregious that my own mother (a teacher in the district) is hoping for consolidation.  They&#039;ve cut pay for bus drivers, cut travel for teacher training, but still can find the money for this?

Shows where the priorities of the Trustees lies, and is a perfect example of the problems in public education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony,</p>
<p>While there are certainly logisical problems, this whole situation is indefensible.  From the SHJ article, only two of the other six districts in the county even pay for their golf teams, and the most expensive is Dorman paying $1,000/year for Carolina Country Club.  Even by those standards, $5,000 yearly is expensive, but not outrageous.  </p>
<p>What irritates me is spending that kind of money ($200,000) on capital improvements at an exclusive private club.  The only way this would be remotely defensible would be if the course was open to any District 7 student.  The golf team already discourages anyone from trying out who doesn&#8217;t already have a handicap in the teens, and most of those kids are already members at CCS.  </p>
<p>At the end of the day, I&#8217;ve defended public education (especially in Spartanburg) for quite some time, but after these shenanigans it&#8217;s especially tough to do so.  We basically have the trustees and Superintendent subsidizing their private country club with taxpayer money.  The waste has become so egregious that my own mother (a teacher in the district) is hoping for consolidation.  They&#8217;ve cut pay for bus drivers, cut travel for teacher training, but still can find the money for this?</p>
<p>Shows where the priorities of the Trustees lies, and is a perfect example of the problems in public education.</p>
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		<title>By: Earl Capps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Earl Capps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I don&#039;t get about the whole thing with the Spartanburg delegation is the Republican legislators who (along with their backers) are fond of calling everyone RINOs for cozying up to Democrats ... signed right up with Democratic Senator Gleen Reese to take over the delegation.

I would bet that if the roles were reversed and they came out on the losing end of the vote, RINO shots would be the first thing you&#039;d hear.

While the likes of Millwood are entertaining at times, there are just so many sad examples of politics and governance in Spartanburg County that one has to wonder what they put in the water there.

Next time I go up to my mother&#039;s house in Spartanburg, I think I need to bring along bottled water, just in case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I don&#8217;t get about the whole thing with the Spartanburg delegation is the Republican legislators who (along with their backers) are fond of calling everyone RINOs for cozying up to Democrats &#8230; signed right up with Democratic Senator Gleen Reese to take over the delegation.</p>
<p>I would bet that if the roles were reversed and they came out on the losing end of the vote, RINO shots would be the first thing you&#8217;d hear.</p>
<p>While the likes of Millwood are entertaining at times, there are just so many sad examples of politics and governance in Spartanburg County that one has to wonder what they put in the water there.</p>
<p>Next time I go up to my mother&#8217;s house in Spartanburg, I think I need to bring along bottled water, just in case.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will, 

Baker makes some very valid points as far as the logistical problems for the golf team at Spartanburg High. They are paying for a putting green. In return, they get the use of the entire facility for 20 years. Spartanburg High School has for many years paid rent to Wofford College (a private institution) for use of their football stadium and you don&#039;t hear a word about it. How do you feel about that use of taxpayer money? 

If these funds were being allocated for a football field, new equipment for the other sports teams, or a new locker room at a school, would anyone, including yourself, be bitching about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will, </p>
<p>Baker makes some very valid points as far as the logistical problems for the golf team at Spartanburg High. They are paying for a putting green. In return, they get the use of the entire facility for 20 years. Spartanburg High School has for many years paid rent to Wofford College (a private institution) for use of their football stadium and you don&#8217;t hear a word about it. How do you feel about that use of taxpayer money? </p>
<p>If these funds were being allocated for a football field, new equipment for the other sports teams, or a new locker room at a school, would anyone, including yourself, be bitching about it?</p>
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		<title>By: baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will -- I&#039;m not sure you know much about the Spartanburg District 7 school board. It&#039;s not a bunch that sits on their hands and waits to be told what to do. Particularly with things like this -- capital investments, facilities, partnerships with community entities, etc. -- the heavy-hitters on the board are very much involved....Whether you like their decisions or not, I can tell you that much. 

Maybe it is splitting hairs, as you say. But it&#039;s still funny to me to hear guys like Joey Millwood rant about the &quot;educrats&quot; and not take on his fellow locally elected officials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will &#8212; I&#8217;m not sure you know much about the Spartanburg District 7 school board. It&#8217;s not a bunch that sits on their hands and waits to be told what to do. Particularly with things like this &#8212; capital investments, facilities, partnerships with community entities, etc. &#8212; the heavy-hitters on the board are very much involved&#8230;.Whether you like their decisions or not, I can tell you that much. </p>
<p>Maybe it is splitting hairs, as you say. But it&#8217;s still funny to me to hear guys like Joey Millwood rant about the &#8220;educrats&#8221; and not take on his fellow locally elected officials.</p>
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		<title>By: fitsnews</title>
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		<dc:creator>fitsnews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people are on crack. The whole idea came from the Superintendent. It is an educrat idea through and through.

Splitting hairs over the focal point of the &quot;bone-headed&quot; decision (is it educrats or not) is a pretty piss poor way of moving the conversation off of what it&#039;s supposed to be.  
 
-FITS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people are on crack. The whole idea came from the Superintendent. It is an educrat idea through and through.</p>
<p>Splitting hairs over the focal point of the &#8220;bone-headed&#8221; decision (is it educrats or not) is a pretty piss poor way of moving the conversation off of what it&#8217;s supposed to be.  </p>
<p>-FITS</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to agree with JJ -- lumping this bone-headed decision in with your very favorite stereotype &quot;educrats&quot; is over the line.  You said yourself that this was done BY school board members.  As much as I can blame teachers and principals for a lot that&#039;s wrong, I don&#039;t think they had any say in this at all.  I doubt many (or any) of the teachers belong to the club.  

This sounds like the school board has been taking lessons from Harrell, McConnell and company -- not teachers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to agree with JJ &#8212; lumping this bone-headed decision in with your very favorite stereotype &#8220;educrats&#8221; is over the line.  You said yourself that this was done BY school board members.  As much as I can blame teachers and principals for a lot that&#8217;s wrong, I don&#8217;t think they had any say in this at all.  I doubt many (or any) of the teachers belong to the club.  </p>
<p>This sounds like the school board has been taking lessons from Harrell, McConnell and company &#8212; not teachers.</p>
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