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		<title>By: Brent Nelsen for SC GOV? &#124; The Belltower Voice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent Nelsen for SC GOV? &#124; The Belltower Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nelsen recently wrote this Op-Ed in The State: S.C. GOP Must Reform Itself. This Fitsnews.com article argues that there may be room left more contenders on the GOP [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Random guy for governor &#124; The Palmetto Scoop</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/01/19/2010-the-establishment-three/comment-page-1/#comment-45935</link>
		<dc:creator>Random guy for governor &#124; The Palmetto Scoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] complete comedy routine. And that can only mean one thing: Nelsen must be Gov. Mark Sanford&#8217;s super-secret last-minute entry into the governor&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] complete comedy routine. And that can only mean one thing: Nelsen must be Gov. Mark Sanford&#8217;s super-secret last-minute entry into the governor&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: baker</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/01/19/2010-the-establishment-three/comment-page-1/#comment-45854</link>
		<dc:creator>baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will, did you just happen to be one of the &quot;college kids&quot;? 

I remember Joel S. talking you up BIG TIME around then. Must have been an exciting time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will, did you just happen to be one of the &#8220;college kids&#8221;? </p>
<p>I remember Joel S. talking you up BIG TIME around then. Must have been an exciting time.</p>
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		<title>By: BIN News Editorial Staff</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/01/19/2010-the-establishment-three/comment-page-1/#comment-45815</link>
		<dc:creator>BIN News Editorial Staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn. Watching republicrats fighting is getting boring.</description>
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		<title>By: LA Conservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>LA Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 05:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who will Sanford support in 2010?  That may be the real question.  He is still hugely popular.

Someone I think would be a good choice is Joe Taylor at the Department of Commerce.  A good mix of a Carroll Campbell in industry recruitment and a fiscal conservative like Sanford.

In the legislature, the best candidates for Governor are rookies.  Tom Davis and Mick Mulvaney come to mind. 

I don&#039;t believe any of the &quot;trifecta&quot; will make it in the end.  Especially in these times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who will Sanford support in 2010?  That may be the real question.  He is still hugely popular.</p>
<p>Someone I think would be a good choice is Joe Taylor at the Department of Commerce.  A good mix of a Carroll Campbell in industry recruitment and a fiscal conservative like Sanford.</p>
<p>In the legislature, the best candidates for Governor are rookies.  Tom Davis and Mick Mulvaney come to mind. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe any of the &#8220;trifecta&#8221; will make it in the end.  Especially in these times.</p>
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		<title>By: Wade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe that state senator from Beaufort is the person we need to run.</description>
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		<title>By: fitsnews</title>
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		<dc:creator>fitsnews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Don&#039;t Forget Lerner,&quot;

Damn, dude. Thanks for the softball down the middle of the plate.

Let&#039;s see ... Lerner &quot;ran the campaign?&quot; 

Well, he &quot;ran the campaign&quot; in that everything he wrote for Sanford had to not only be completely rewritten, but completely re-conceptualized. 

Sort of like the &quot;clinking glasses&quot; kitchen ad that featured two women having the following conversation:

&lt;em&gt;Woman 1: Have you heard of that Mark Sanford? I hear he received the Number One ranking from Citizens Against Government Waste!

Woman 2: You don&#039;t say? Well I heard Mark Sanford was awarded the National Taxpayers&#039; Union&#039;s most prestigious honor for his courageous stands in support of lower marginal tax rates and a population plus inflation limit on federal spending!

Woman 1: (glasses clinking) Tee-hee!

Woman 2: Tee hee! Tee hee!&lt;/em&gt;

Never heard that one before? Perhaps that&#039;s because it never ran anywhere except in a beat-up boom box in Sanford&#039;s basement.

Basically, every time Lerner wrote anything Mark would come downstairs to ask one of the &quot;college kids in the basement&quot; to start from scratch. As it turns out, one of them could actually write, too.

Of course, Lerner will claim to have been the key strategist, which ignores the fact that Sanford completely ignored his repeated advice to join Peeler and Condon on the lunatic religious fringe.

It also conveniently ignores what happened at the most vital point of the campaign - when Lt. Gov. Bob Peeler went hard negative in a desperate attempt to make the runoff against Sanford competitive.

That&#039;s when Lerner proposed (and actually cut) a vicious counterattack ad that he and the future First Lady told Sanford he had &quot;no choice&quot; but to run.

Of course, two of those &quot;college kids in the basement&quot; (and a current State Senator from Beaufort County) told Sanford to stick to his positive message, and one of them even wrote an &quot;I love our state&quot; ad to that effect. Which Sanford ended up going with. 

The result? A 20-point mega-landslide and perhaps the most compelling rebuke of negative politics in South Carolina history.

Additionally, Peeler&#039;s campaign manager later admitted they were deliberately trying to bait Sanford.

Look, dude. If you weren&#039;t there, STFU.

Of course the real reason Mark Sanford won the Governor&#039;s Mansion in 2002 was that he worked his ass off raising money, he looked damn good smiling with that cute family on television.

That, and Jenny Sanford flat-out willed it.
 
-FITS
  
P.S. - In fairness, Lerner does produce great polling data (he&#039;s a true wizard at crosstabs, incidentally). Just don&#039;t ask him to formulate a theory or try and articulate a message based on any of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t Forget Lerner,&#8221;</p>
<p>Damn, dude. Thanks for the softball down the middle of the plate.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see &#8230; Lerner &#8220;ran the campaign?&#8221; </p>
<p>Well, he &#8220;ran the campaign&#8221; in that everything he wrote for Sanford had to not only be completely rewritten, but completely re-conceptualized. </p>
<p>Sort of like the &#8220;clinking glasses&#8221; kitchen ad that featured two women having the following conversation:</p>
<p><em>Woman 1: Have you heard of that Mark Sanford? I hear he received the Number One ranking from Citizens Against Government Waste!</p>
<p>Woman 2: You don&#8217;t say? Well I heard Mark Sanford was awarded the National Taxpayers&#8217; Union&#8217;s most prestigious honor for his courageous stands in support of lower marginal tax rates and a population plus inflation limit on federal spending!</p>
<p>Woman 1: (glasses clinking) Tee-hee!</p>
<p>Woman 2: Tee hee! Tee hee!</em></p>
<p>Never heard that one before? Perhaps that&#8217;s because it never ran anywhere except in a beat-up boom box in Sanford&#8217;s basement.</p>
<p>Basically, every time Lerner wrote anything Mark would come downstairs to ask one of the &#8220;college kids in the basement&#8221; to start from scratch. As it turns out, one of them could actually write, too.</p>
<p>Of course, Lerner will claim to have been the key strategist, which ignores the fact that Sanford completely ignored his repeated advice to join Peeler and Condon on the lunatic religious fringe.</p>
<p>It also conveniently ignores what happened at the most vital point of the campaign &#8211; when Lt. Gov. Bob Peeler went hard negative in a desperate attempt to make the runoff against Sanford competitive.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s when Lerner proposed (and actually cut) a vicious counterattack ad that he and the future First Lady told Sanford he had &#8220;no choice&#8221; but to run.</p>
<p>Of course, two of those &#8220;college kids in the basement&#8221; (and a current State Senator from Beaufort County) told Sanford to stick to his positive message, and one of them even wrote an &#8220;I love our state&#8221; ad to that effect. Which Sanford ended up going with. </p>
<p>The result? A 20-point mega-landslide and perhaps the most compelling rebuke of negative politics in South Carolina history.</p>
<p>Additionally, Peeler&#8217;s campaign manager later admitted they were deliberately trying to bait Sanford.</p>
<p>Look, dude. If you weren&#8217;t there, STFU.</p>
<p>Of course the real reason Mark Sanford won the Governor&#8217;s Mansion in 2002 was that he worked his ass off raising money, he looked damn good smiling with that cute family on television.</p>
<p>That, and Jenny Sanford flat-out willed it.</p>
<p>-FITS</p>
<p>P.S. &#8211; In fairness, Lerner does produce great polling data (he&#8217;s a true wizard at crosstabs, incidentally). Just don&#8217;t ask him to formulate a theory or try and articulate a message based on any of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Don't forget Lerner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don't forget Lerner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No offense to you, Will, one of the &quot;rag-tag assemblage of political amateurs managed by the future First Lady out of the coupleâ€™s basement,&quot; but let&#039;s remember the consultant out of DC that was really running Sanford&#039;s race.  Jon Lerner called all the shots, not just his commercials and polling, which we all know Sanford lived by. Few people knew that, which I thought was disengenious of the Sanford&#039;s to pretend college kids were running the campaign when he was paying a DC consultant big money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offense to you, Will, one of the &#8220;rag-tag assemblage of political amateurs managed by the future First Lady out of the coupleâ€™s basement,&#8221; but let&#8217;s remember the consultant out of DC that was really running Sanford&#8217;s race.  Jon Lerner called all the shots, not just his commercials and polling, which we all know Sanford lived by. Few people knew that, which I thought was disengenious of the Sanford&#8217;s to pretend college kids were running the campaign when he was paying a DC consultant big money.</p>
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		<title>By: Fiscal Conservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fiscal Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure Barrett made a very consequential vote when he stood up against his party and against the President by voting against one of the biggest expansions in Medicare in history by voting against the Prescription Drug Bill.  

That program now has ballooned to the tune of 2-3 TRILLION dollars when it was supposed to only cost $400B.  

Will, there are plenty of other votes that have mattered.  You say that vote was the only one that mattered, but the bill passed overwhelmingly, Barrett could have thrown his vote away like you say and voted no to keep his record on track, but he did what he thought was right for the people and the businesses of our state and nation.  Report the FACTS or you will end up just like print media in our state, IRRELEVANT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure Barrett made a very consequential vote when he stood up against his party and against the President by voting against one of the biggest expansions in Medicare in history by voting against the Prescription Drug Bill.  </p>
<p>That program now has ballooned to the tune of 2-3 TRILLION dollars when it was supposed to only cost $400B.  </p>
<p>Will, there are plenty of other votes that have mattered.  You say that vote was the only one that mattered, but the bill passed overwhelmingly, Barrett could have thrown his vote away like you say and voted no to keep his record on track, but he did what he thought was right for the people and the businesses of our state and nation.  Report the FACTS or you will end up just like print media in our state, IRRELEVANT.</p>
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		<title>By: KP</title>
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		<dc:creator>KP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the 2007 Club for Growth scores.  Will, the Libertarians are out.</description>
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