Comments on: Eliminate South Carolina’s Income Tax http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/12/15/eliminate-south-carolinas-income-tax/ Unfair ... Imbalanced Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:00:19 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Katherine Jenerette http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/12/15/eliminate-south-carolinas-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-43994 Katherine Jenerette Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:19:47 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=10507#comment-43994 TO: BIN News Editorial Staff Dear BIN, Thank you for another opportunity to ‘set the record straight’ on the issue of income taxes. I’ve always believed that most Politicians are kind of like a cross between a ‘Carnival-Con-Man’ and a ‘Preacher-Without-a-Church.’ One can steal your underwear while you still have your pants on and the other will nearly drown you but they’ll both have you believe that you honestly enjoyed the experience. Politicians are a ‘flim-flam’ of both rolled into one: A politician reaches into you pocket and takes your money with one hand then turns around and bribes you with your own money with the other. If you want the new bridge or the road paved or a new school, you better vote for the guy who has your money – and then you’ll thank him for not forgetting the common folks, who pay for everything anyway. Politicians are Junkies and their fix is your money. The quickest way to your wallet is runs through the State House and the ‘Legislative Carnival’ runs all year round. BIN, I hate income-tax as much as you seem to like my toes. So, thanks for remembering me for something worthwhile, I feel like you’ve sort-of adopted me as your future Congressman. Am I right? Anyway, now to your other points. I don’t scam anyone – voters or soldiers - my job is very real and I am very real. I am an Army Lieutenant that ‘falls out of C-130s’ and I am now at Fort Bragg. I was an Army Journalist when I was young just like I was in the 10th grade before I went to USC/CCU and then USC for my masters degree. My Army branch is Military Police and I am a Civil Affairs Team Leader. But you are right about checking the static line: One of my biggest fears is having that line wrap around my arm or my head when I exit the aircraft – or as you say ‘fall out’ – the rest I can handle but the static line is always in the back of my mind before a jump. I hope that if you have any other questions you’ll feel free to ask. I keep thinking I just might be able to get your vote yet. It’s like constituent services or congressional case work - what I probably need to do is to send you a Christmas card. Well, I’ve got to run. That should do it for now. Katherine P.S. Forgive me if I seem like I’m in a Holiday Spirit – I am. I figure I’ll have time to be ‘grim’ when I get back to the Middle East. Merry Christmas! TO: BIN News Editorial Staff

Dear BIN,

Thank you for another opportunity to ‘set the record straight’ on the issue of income taxes.

I’ve always believed that most Politicians are kind of like a cross between a ‘Carnival-Con-Man’ and a ‘Preacher-Without-a-Church.’ One can steal your underwear while you still have your pants on and the other will nearly drown you but they’ll both have you believe that you honestly enjoyed the experience.

Politicians are a ‘flim-flam’ of both rolled into one: A politician reaches into you pocket and takes your money with one hand then turns around and bribes you with your own money with the other. If you want the new bridge or the road paved or a new school, you better vote for the guy who has your money – and then you’ll thank him for not forgetting the common folks, who pay for everything anyway.

Politicians are Junkies and their fix is your money. The quickest way to your wallet is runs through the State House and the ‘Legislative Carnival’ runs all year round.

BIN, I hate income-tax as much as you seem to like my toes. So, thanks for remembering me for something worthwhile, I feel like you’ve sort-of adopted me as your future Congressman. Am I right?

Anyway, now to your other points. I don’t scam anyone – voters or soldiers – my job is very real and I am very real. I am an Army Lieutenant that ‘falls out of C-130s’ and I am now at Fort Bragg. I was an Army Journalist when I was young just like I was in the 10th grade before I went to USC/CCU and then USC for my masters degree. My Army branch is Military Police and I am a Civil Affairs Team Leader.

But you are right about checking the static line: One of my biggest fears is having that line wrap around my arm or my head when I exit the aircraft – or as you say ‘fall out’ – the rest I can handle but the static line is always in the back of my mind before a jump.

I hope that if you have any other questions you’ll feel free to ask. I keep thinking I just might be able to get your vote yet. It’s like constituent services or congressional case work – what I probably need to do is to send you a Christmas card.

Well, I’ve got to run. That should do it for now.
Katherine
P.S. Forgive me if I seem like I’m in a Holiday Spirit – I am. I figure I’ll have time to be ‘grim’ when I get back to the Middle East. Merry Christmas!

]]> By: Statesman http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/12/15/eliminate-south-carolinas-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-43930 Statesman Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:31:00 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=10507#comment-43930 Continental just announced a plant closure in SC. Moving operations to another state. State INCENTIVES were one of the specific reasons. Continental just announced a plant closure in SC. Moving operations to another state. State INCENTIVES were one of the specific reasons.

]]> By: Chris http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/12/15/eliminate-south-carolinas-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-43913 Chris Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:59:42 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=10507#comment-43913 C - can't speak for TX but Florida balances things a little differently. Sales tax is higher, often 8% - and no cuts for cars like in SC with a $300 limit. However, no sales tax on food, medicine and some other items. Property tax on real estate is higher...think 6-8 mil with the homestead exemption depending on county compared to 4 mil in SC. Many major daily traveled roads are toll. No property tax on cars/boats - just the $25/year tag fee. No income tax. (Bankrupcy allows you to keep primary home and up to 144 ac. I believe it is.) No income tax what so ever, personal or corp. Population is higher, but then so in unemployment. Public Assistance programs far exceed SC. Tourism chips in to the sales tax base a good bit, but not like it once did. There are always the reports that drug related moneys are what grease the wheels of banking in S. Fla. but no way to quantify. Educational system far exceeds that in SC, even with the incredible challenges of so many nationalities. A couple large military installations (Jacksonville and Pensacola - with Tampa and Homestead all but closed) help out. Overall though, it is very similar. They have Orlando - we have Myrtle Beach. They have Miami, we have Charleston. We actually mirror them fairly well on about a 50% scale. I have not referenced the actual population numbers though. I would be very interested to know the average income of both states. Florida is predominantly low income with S. Fla. and a few places other small towns as the exceptions. Where FL has higher tourism we have higher manufacturing. I also believe we still have a lower mean age then Florida (and fewer Canadians that cannot drive). C – can’t speak for TX but Florida balances things a little differently. Sales tax is higher, often 8% – and no cuts for cars like in SC with a $300 limit. However, no sales tax on food, medicine and some other items. Property tax on real estate is higher…think 6-8 mil with the homestead exemption depending on county compared to 4 mil in SC. Many major daily traveled roads are toll. No property tax on cars/boats – just the $25/year tag fee. No income tax. (Bankrupcy allows you to keep primary home and up to 144 ac. I believe it is.) No income tax what so ever, personal or corp. Population is higher, but then so in unemployment. Public Assistance programs far exceed SC. Tourism chips in to the sales tax base a good bit, but not like it once did. There are always the reports that drug related moneys are what grease the wheels of banking in S. Fla. but no way to quantify. Educational system far exceeds that in SC, even with the incredible challenges of so many nationalities. A couple large military installations (Jacksonville and Pensacola – with Tampa and Homestead all but closed) help out. Overall though, it is very similar. They have Orlando – we have Myrtle Beach. They have Miami, we have Charleston. We actually mirror them fairly well on about a 50% scale. I have not referenced the actual population numbers though. I would be very interested to know the average income of both states. Florida is predominantly low income with S. Fla. and a few places other small towns as the exceptions. Where FL has higher tourism we have higher manufacturing. I also believe we still have a lower mean age then Florida (and fewer Canadians that cannot drive).

]]> By: Chris http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/12/15/eliminate-south-carolinas-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-43912 Chris Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:47:29 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=10507#comment-43912 Katherine Jenerette...I like her tax stance, she's hot and she served (even in not in the USMC). I would vote for her...hell, I would volunteer for her campaign...she obviously needs some tech consulting anyhow. :-) In regards to the story...ya, love the idea, the math works out...it makes sense...so obviously it will never happen. You do recall all the idiots we voted into office right? Katherine Jenerette…I like her tax stance, she’s hot and she served (even in not in the USMC). I would vote for her…hell, I would volunteer for her campaign…she obviously needs some tech consulting anyhow. :-)

In regards to the story…ya, love the idea, the math works out…it makes sense…so obviously it will never happen. You do recall all the idiots we voted into office right?

]]> By: C http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/12/15/eliminate-south-carolinas-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-43910 C Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:47:31 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=10507#comment-43910 Since Texas and Florida are your examples, can you tell us how they generate revenue? A serious comparison of the pros and cons is necessary for us to buy into your plan. Since Texas and Florida are your examples, can you tell us how they generate revenue? A serious comparison of the pros and cons is necessary for us to buy into your plan.

]]> By: BIN News Editorial Staff http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/12/15/eliminate-south-carolinas-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-43908 BIN News Editorial Staff Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:58:13 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=10507#comment-43908 The only interesting thing about this string is Katherine Jenerette (AKA Sexy Toes) made a post and did not try to pretend to be a goddess of combat. Katherine, we support your "sexy toe" approach to politics. So does sic(k) willie. You should hear what he said about that photo. But, back off the "war hero" cr@p. You were a journalist. Anyone can fall out of an airplane. "He was a rookie trooper and he surely shook with fright. He check all his equipment and made sure his pack was tight......" Before you try to scam your voters again, make sure your pack is tight. And check your static line. Last time your static line was unhooked. BIN News Editorial Staff Flair and Balanced The only interesting thing about this string is Katherine Jenerette (AKA Sexy Toes) made a post and did not try to pretend to be a goddess of combat.

Katherine, we support your “sexy toe” approach to politics. So does sic(k) willie. You should hear what he said about that photo.

But, back off the “war hero” cr@p. You were a journalist. Anyone can fall out of an airplane. “He was a rookie trooper and he surely shook with fright. He check all his equipment and made sure his pack was tight……”

Before you try to scam your voters again, make sure your pack is tight. And check your static line. Last time your static line was unhooked.

BIN News Editorial Staff
Flair and Balanced

]]> By: Jay Wiley http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/12/15/eliminate-south-carolinas-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-43877 Jay Wiley Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:16:21 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=10507#comment-43877 I've had my dose of common-sense fiscal responsibility for my Monday morning and feel a little bit better. Thank God for Mark Sanford. I’ve had my dose of common-sense fiscal responsibility for my Monday morning and feel a little bit better. Thank God for Mark Sanford.

]]> By: Just Sayin http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/12/15/eliminate-south-carolinas-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-43871 Just Sayin Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:47:38 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=10507#comment-43871 Uh, Deval Patrick is the OTHER black governor from the Northeast (Massachusetts). David Patterson is the BLIND, black governor from New York. An honest mistake made by millions of rednecks every day. Uh, Deval Patrick is the OTHER black governor from the Northeast (Massachusetts). David Patterson is the BLIND, black governor
from New York.

An honest mistake made by millions of rednecks every day.

]]> By: Don Johnson http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/12/15/eliminate-south-carolinas-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-43865 Don Johnson Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:12:21 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=10507#comment-43865 Judging by your photo, your plan will be to Eat Mor Chikin. Judging by your photo, your plan will be to Eat Mor Chikin.

]]> By: Katherine Jenerette http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/12/15/eliminate-south-carolinas-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-43864 Katherine Jenerette Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:46:37 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=10507#comment-43864 "First, Once the government can sweep aside the boundary between its hand and your wallet; which is your labor, they have violated the principal of a free man. Secondly is the principal of a limited government is violated by creating institutions that both increase the size of the federal government; which in turn, allows those institutions to control and limit the opportunities of a free people." ~ Me on Taxes excerpt: from, "If It’s Reagan Principles You Want, Katherine Jenerette Is Your Gal" May 2007 Both Federal and State Income tax should be abolished. The message to the Government is this: Get away from our income. The only exception that I can conceive of myself, would be during a war declared by Congress in accordance with the Constitution of the United States, Article 1, Section 8. From its founding, our country operated without a personal income tax for 137 years. Some people have advocated tax Pre-Bates directly to the people. I do not. Pre-bates would be just another government control mechanism that allows the government to maintain leverage over an individual which would be a close cousin to the system we have right now. This would build another level of dependency on the government, which would extend far beyond those persons dependent on the government right now. My bottom line on income tax may sound simplistic, but I believe that a tax on a person’s income violates the basic principals of our original Constitution and the Declaration of Independence with regard to the equality of all men. The basic principal of a free man is that he cannot be owned by another man or no man can own another man’s labor. To say that the government can violate this principal is a contradiction of our uniquely American beliefs of freedom. That's all for now. “First, Once the government can sweep aside the boundary between its hand and your wallet; which is your labor, they have violated the principal of a free man.
Secondly is the principal of a limited government is violated by creating institutions that both increase the size of the federal government; which in turn, allows those institutions to control and limit the opportunities of a free people.” ~ Me on Taxes excerpt: from, “If It’s Reagan Principles You Want, Katherine Jenerette Is Your Gal” May 2007

Both Federal and State Income tax should be abolished. The message to the Government is this: Get away from our income. The only exception that I can conceive of myself, would be during a war declared by Congress in accordance with the Constitution of the United States, Article 1, Section 8. From its founding, our country operated without a personal income tax for 137 years.

Some people have advocated tax Pre-Bates directly to the people. I do not.

Pre-bates would be just another government control mechanism that allows the government to maintain leverage over an individual which would be a close cousin to the system we have right now. This would build another level of dependency on the government, which would extend far beyond those persons dependent on the government right now.

My bottom line on income tax may sound simplistic, but I believe that a tax on a person’s income violates the basic principals of our original Constitution and the Declaration of Independence with regard to the equality of all men.

The basic principal of a free man is that he cannot be owned by another man or no man can own another man’s labor. To say that the government can violate this principal is a contradiction of our uniquely American beliefs of freedom.

That’s all for now.

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