Comments on: The Incredible Shrinking American Navy http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/11/19/the-incredible-shrinking-american-navy/ Unfair ... Imbalanced Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:09:11 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Bloviating Zeppelin http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/11/19/the-incredible-shrinking-american-navy/comment-page-1/#comment-42858 Bloviating Zeppelin Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:04:29 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=9104#comment-42858 BINGO! PRECISELY! Well said! BZ BINGO! PRECISELY! Well said!

BZ

]]> By: Just Like The Romans :: FITSNews http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/11/19/the-incredible-shrinking-american-navy/comment-page-1/#comment-42463 Just Like The Romans :: FITSNews Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:36:04 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=9104#comment-42463 [...] if the current not so ship-shape of our Navy didn’t portend such [...] [...] if the current not so ship-shape of our Navy didn’t portend such [...]

]]> By: rick http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/11/19/the-incredible-shrinking-american-navy/comment-page-1/#comment-42355 rick Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:43:24 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=9104#comment-42355 Gentlemen, at what point do we discontinue our belief that we must be the worlds policemen? The supertanker belongs to Saudi...the same saudi that begat the 9/11 terrorists....let them solve their own problems. When US shipping is taken, then use US forces to protect US citizens. It won't be long before the world decides that having the US as a world policeman is preferable to having the Saudi's or many 3rd worlders doing it. We are now on the cusp of a miraculous change in not only our image, but our ability to talk to these miscreants in a way that will cause them to mend their ways. After all, the Democrats have succeeded in the past 3 altercations to shut down our global policemen after much expenditure of lives and wealth. Has not the great God Obuma, said let us go without preconditions to speak with and bring into our flock the wayward. We no longer need to spend our wealth on warships, we no longer need a standing military...all hail to the great God Obuma. Screw the rest of the world, when they've had their collective asses handed to them, let them eat cake. Save the wealth and lives for things that matter, and Saudi don't matter. Gentlemen, at what point do we discontinue our belief that we must be the worlds policemen? The supertanker belongs to Saudi…the same saudi that begat the 9/11 terrorists….let them solve their own problems. When US shipping is taken, then use US forces to protect US citizens. It won’t be long before the world decides that having the US as a world policeman is preferable to having the Saudi’s or many 3rd worlders doing it.
We are now on the cusp of a miraculous change in not only our image, but our ability to talk to these miscreants in a way that will cause them to mend their ways. After all, the Democrats have succeeded in the past 3 altercations to shut down our global policemen after much expenditure of lives and wealth. Has not the great God Obuma, said let us go without preconditions to speak with and bring into our flock the wayward. We no longer need to spend our wealth on warships, we no longer need a standing military…all hail to the great God Obuma. Screw the rest of the world, when they’ve had their collective asses handed to them, let them eat cake. Save the wealth and lives for things that matter, and Saudi don’t matter.

]]> By: Craig http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/11/19/the-incredible-shrinking-american-navy/comment-page-1/#comment-42316 Craig Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:54:23 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=9104#comment-42316 Chris you are crazy. We need more ships, period. The sheer size of the globe that is covered by water and the distance of the maritime choke points of the world dictates this. This is not something that can be done smaller and cheaper with better technology as you say. Clinton tried that, and we are where we are today with an inadequate Navy because of it. Technological improvement and increasing capability should always be a given. BUT it should always be done in the context of a 500 ship Navy. Chris you are crazy. We need more ships, period. The sheer size of the globe that is covered by water and the distance of the maritime choke points of the world dictates this. This is not something that can be done smaller and cheaper with better technology as you say. Clinton tried that, and we are where we are today with an inadequate Navy because of it. Technological improvement and increasing capability should always be a given. BUT it should always be done in the context of a 500 ship Navy.

]]> By: Gen. George Patton http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/11/19/the-incredible-shrinking-american-navy/comment-page-1/#comment-42307 Gen. George Patton Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:35:13 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=9104#comment-42307 "He will support sea basing ships capable of support humanitarian missions as well as combat mission" That is the problem. The US Military was not & is not intended to be some sort of international Meals on Wheels. The purpose of the US Military is to kill people & break things. Period. “He will support sea basing ships capable of support humanitarian missions
as well as combat mission”

That is the problem. The US Military was not & is not intended to be some sort of international Meals on Wheels. The purpose of the US Military is to kill people & break things. Period.

]]> By: sid http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/11/19/the-incredible-shrinking-american-navy/comment-page-1/#comment-42291 sid Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:24:07 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=9104#comment-42291 Obama's sales pitch to the voters is one thing, while what he actually does will likely be quite different. Campaign promises quite often get thrown out the window, once the goal of being elected is accomplished. If he expands and improves our navy, that would be great. I doubt that will happen, though. Apparently, the U.S. Navy should be following the lead of that venerable naval superpower, India, which has started actually sinking these pirate ships. Good for them. One down, and many, many more to go. It may sound a little extreme (not really), but what probably should be done is really simple. Hire some mercenaries to ride shotgun on the ships. Three or four former military types with relatively light arms could probably repel most pirate attacks. Obama’s sales pitch to the voters is one thing, while what he actually does will likely be quite different. Campaign promises quite often get thrown out the window, once the goal of being elected is accomplished. If he expands and improves our navy, that would be great. I doubt that will happen, though.

Apparently, the U.S. Navy should be following the lead of that venerable naval superpower, India, which has started actually sinking these pirate ships. Good for them. One down, and many, many more to go.

It may sound a little extreme (not really), but what probably should be done is really simple. Hire some mercenaries to ride shotgun on the ships. Three or four former military types with relatively light arms could probably repel most pirate attacks.

]]> By: confused http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/11/19/the-incredible-shrinking-american-navy/comment-page-1/#comment-42286 confused Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:05:08 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=9104#comment-42286 chris, have you ever read a position statement before? the statement you quoted says cutting. "tilting investment" is code for cutting money from big ships that can do something about bad things on the open seas and moving that money toward "riverine and small coastal patrol craft" that don't go outside our territorial waters. can't really get a boston whaler to africa, and you sure as hell can't land an f18 on a river boat. that statement says "we're downsizing the navy." there is just no other way to read it. it's not a partisan assessment. it's reading what's written. chris, have you ever read a position statement before? the statement you quoted says cutting. “tilting investment” is code for cutting money from big ships that can do something about bad things on the open seas and moving that money toward “riverine and small coastal patrol craft” that don’t go outside our territorial waters. can’t really get a boston whaler to africa, and you sure as hell can’t land an f18 on a river boat.

that statement says “we’re downsizing the navy.” there is just no other way to read it. it’s not a partisan assessment. it’s reading what’s written.

]]> By: Toyota Kawaski http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/11/19/the-incredible-shrinking-american-navy/comment-page-1/#comment-42285 Toyota Kawaski Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:02:20 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=9104#comment-42285 mabey the Pirate from free credit report.com could talk to his fellow mates of the high seas mabey the Pirate from free credit report.com could talk to his fellow mates of the high seas

]]> By: ** http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/11/19/the-incredible-shrinking-american-navy/comment-page-1/#comment-42284 ** Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:57:27 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=9104#comment-42284 Ready, set, go: Speak softly, walk softly, chew your gum softly. Ready, set, go: Speak softly, walk softly, chew your gum softly.

]]> By: fitsnews http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/11/19/the-incredible-shrinking-american-navy/comment-page-1/#comment-42282 fitsnews Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:34:39 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=9104#comment-42282 walk ... speak ... whatever. walk … speak … whatever.

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