Comments on: Libertarian: The New Democrat? http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/07/08/libertarian-the-new-democrat/ Unfair ... Imbalanced Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:38:09 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: “To The Left, To The Left” | FITSNews For Now http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/07/08/libertarian-the-new-democrat/comment-page-1/#comment-35222 “To The Left, To The Left” | FITSNews For Now Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:19:22 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=4127#comment-35222 [...] Barr has decided that the other side’s grass is greener … so to speak. The thing is, he might be right - at least inasmuch as disgruntled Hillacrats [...] [...] Barr has decided that the other side’s grass is greener … so to speak. The thing is, he might be right – at least inasmuch as disgruntled Hillacrats [...]

]]> By: South Carolina in play for Obama « Vierdsonian Democracy http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/07/08/libertarian-the-new-democrat/comment-page-1/#comment-30572 South Carolina in play for Obama « Vierdsonian Democracy Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:31:09 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=4127#comment-30572 [...] Zogby’s latest poll has Democrat Barack Obama beating McCain by one, 42-41. And, despite what some brain-dead political pundits may think, Libertarian Bob Barr’s candidacy seems to be hurting the Arizona [...] [...] Zogby’s latest poll has Democrat Barack Obama beating McCain by one, 42-41. And, despite what some brain-dead political pundits may think, Libertarian Bob Barr’s candidacy seems to be hurting the Arizona [...]

]]> By: Tim http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/07/08/libertarian-the-new-democrat/comment-page-1/#comment-30456 Tim Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:51:10 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=4127#comment-30456 Free trade is great, but only from within our own country. In the Antebellum era, it was Northern protectionism that was a leach on the South (and exploiting slavery in the worst possible way). Protectionism against foreign countries, however, is only a normal way of doing business and protecting your own hide. Libertarianism is great insofar as it doesn't commit suicide for it's own country. Just ask yourself: Why does Bob Barr favor open borders? The answer: Free trade is not an end-all be-all, universal, global philosophy. True, it is the best philosophy for all of the world to follow, and best for worldwide growth, but national sovereignty comes first. Otherwise, we're inviting those who do not adhere to national free tradism to come across our borders and destroy us from within. Free trade is great, but only from within our own country. In the Antebellum era, it was Northern protectionism that was a leach on the South (and exploiting slavery in the worst possible way). Protectionism against foreign countries, however, is only a normal way of doing business and protecting your own hide. Libertarianism is great insofar as it doesn’t commit suicide for it’s own country. Just ask yourself: Why does Bob Barr favor open borders? The answer: Free trade is not an end-all be-all, universal, global philosophy. True, it is the best philosophy for all of the world to follow, and best for worldwide growth, but national sovereignty comes first. Otherwise, we’re inviting those who do not adhere to national free tradism to come across our borders and destroy us from within.

]]> By: Rob W. http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/07/08/libertarian-the-new-democrat/comment-page-1/#comment-30250 Rob W. Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:09:28 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=4127#comment-30250 I'm one of the small-l libertarians who switched from the GOP to support Obama in the primary. I'm also seriously considering voting for Bob Barr in the general, particularly since Obama's supported the anti-trade/ mortgage bailout/ farm bill stuff ridiculousness, and the GOP's been so bad on the budget, civil liberties, torture, letting us live our damn lives without interference, etc. I really don't like a lot of things Barr has stood for in the past, but if voting for him can send a message that some of us actually do like free minds and free markets (including labor markets, you silly protectionists), then maybe that'll be a vote well spent. Tom- could I also point out (to you or to Mr. Flat Top) that free trade is the only thing almost all economists believe is good for the economy? People who have devoted their whole lives to studying the subject disagree on government intervention in the economy, spending, the role of regulatory agencies, and environmental policy, but still find a way to agree on the benefits of free trade. I’m one of the small-l libertarians who switched from the GOP to support Obama in the primary. I’m also seriously considering voting for Bob Barr in the general, particularly since Obama’s supported the anti-trade/ mortgage bailout/ farm bill stuff ridiculousness, and the GOP’s been so bad on the budget, civil liberties, torture, letting us live our damn lives without interference, etc. I really don’t like a lot of things Barr has stood for in the past, but if voting for him can send a message that some of us actually do like free minds and free markets (including labor markets, you silly protectionists), then maybe that’ll be a vote well spent.

Tom- could I also point out (to you or to Mr. Flat Top) that free trade is the only thing almost all economists believe is good for the economy? People who have devoted their whole lives to studying the subject disagree on government intervention in the economy, spending, the role of regulatory agencies, and environmental policy, but still find a way to agree on the benefits of free trade.

]]> By: Jefferson Station http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/07/08/libertarian-the-new-democrat/comment-page-1/#comment-30189 Jefferson Station Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:46:44 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=4127#comment-30189 The New Democrat is the OLD DEMOCRAT!!!!! The New Democrat is the OLD DEMOCRAT!!!!!

]]> By: Tim http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/07/08/libertarian-the-new-democrat/comment-page-1/#comment-30188 Tim Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:45:13 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=4127#comment-30188 I voted for (and supported) Ron Paul. Bob Barr sucks. He's for open borders. I'm not sure what his CIA background is, but if you ask me, he's probably yet another drone stalking horse for McCain. Like every other "good" candidate for president since I was born, Chuck Baldwin has an evangelical complex. Oh well. He's still the most interesting, even his third party chances are the most microscopic of all. Dr. Strangelove (err, McCain) has destroyed the GOP. I've never voted for anything but third parties for president. And, this time, I've never felt more ambivalent about the choices. If you wonder why Barr is so bad on open borders.... Just think of all of the open borders Libertarian Party nominee predecessors. They were all identical. That's why Pat Buchanan (and Ron Paul) always out-did them. I voted for (and supported) Ron Paul. Bob Barr sucks. He’s for open borders. I’m not sure what his CIA background is, but if you ask me, he’s probably yet another drone stalking horse for McCain.
Like every other “good” candidate for president since I was born, Chuck Baldwin has an evangelical complex. Oh well. He’s still the most interesting, even his third party chances are the most microscopic of all.
Dr. Strangelove (err, McCain) has destroyed the GOP. I’ve never voted for anything but third parties for president. And, this time, I’ve never felt more ambivalent about the choices.
If you wonder why Barr is so bad on open borders…. Just think of all of the open borders Libertarian Party nominee predecessors. They were all identical. That’s why Pat Buchanan (and Ron Paul) always out-did them.

]]> By: Scott H. http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/07/08/libertarian-the-new-democrat/comment-page-1/#comment-30175 Scott H. Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:07:56 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=4127#comment-30175 Mande: I'm afraid I cannot converse with someone who ranks Steel Magnolias above....or would even dare to speak the name in the same sentence as... The Princess Bride. Good day to you. Mande:

I’m afraid I cannot converse with someone who ranks Steel Magnolias above….or would even dare to speak the name in the same sentence as… The Princess Bride.

Good day to you.

]]> By: rick http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/07/08/libertarian-the-new-democrat/comment-page-1/#comment-30166 rick Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:31:13 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=4127#comment-30166 Well said a knight.....should have added, the majority of Americans fail in the test of freedom. Safety is the new mantra, "it's for the kids" has become passe' Well said a knight…..should have added, the majority of Americans fail in the test of freedom. Safety is the new mantra, “it’s for the kids” has become passe’

]]> By: rick http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/07/08/libertarian-the-new-democrat/comment-page-1/#comment-30163 rick Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:28:56 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=4127#comment-30163 Well said a knight..... Well said a knight…..

]]> By: a knight http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/07/08/libertarian-the-new-democrat/comment-page-1/#comment-30157 a knight Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:56:57 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=4127#comment-30157 oops, that should have read: Fiscally conservative and socially liberal. My poor profing abilities... oops, that should have read: Fiscally conservative and socially liberal. My poor profing abilities…

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