Comments on: Libertarian Rising http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/07/01/libertarian-rising/ Unfair ... Imbalanced Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:28:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Robert http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/07/01/libertarian-rising/comment-page-1/#comment-30392 Robert Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:25:23 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=4068#comment-30392 I am new to the LP, though not yet a member. I am here because, as a disgruntled Republican, I feel betrayed and let down by my party. I feel that my party is caving to the left on many issues including environmentalism, global warming, oil drilling in the United States and on radical feminism. Neither McCain nor Obama supported oil drilling in Alaska or off our shores, for example. Both seemed to believe that a silver bullet energy solution like hydrogen fueled cars would come like knight in shining armor and save us from the clutches of foreign oil dependency, $8/gallon gas prices and 0.1°F higher average global temperatures in the year 2108. Both seemed to think the furry little animals are more important than our economy, our livlihoods and our children's future. Now McCain is slowly changing his position on domestic oil drilling, but will it last? Will he deliver on his promises? Or is he just reading the tea leaves? The last two Republican congresses spent more money than even the liberal Democrat congresses of the 1980s, despite that they promised fiscal responsibility. I thought the Republican party stood for less government and less government spending. But what really gets me is that both parties sponsored one of the scariest laws I've seen in a long time. This law, called IMBRA, requires anyone wishing to correspond with a foreigner through a personals ad column to provide a criminal and family and background report and obtain signed permission before being allowed to say "hi". Is this happening in the United States of America? Under this law, an immigration official can categorically deny your right to marry someone who lives outside the U.S. just because they don't approve of how you met! This law was actually introduced and shot down in 2003 because Congress didn't buy it then! They felt that it was too controversial and denied an individual his/her Constitutional right of free speech, free association, and infringed on individual privacy rights. Why did it pass this time? Because it was renamed and sneaked into the VAWA law during the midnight hour before Christmas break in 2005. I want a leader who will stand for individual rights and freedoms, and get government out of our personal, private affairs. Instead, government needs to focus on defending our freedoms, securing our borders and solving the energy crisis. Get rid of laws like IMBRA and focus on what's really important to America! I am new to the LP, though not yet a member. I am here because, as a disgruntled Republican, I feel betrayed and let down by my party. I feel that my party is caving to the left on many issues including environmentalism, global warming, oil drilling in the United States and on radical feminism. Neither McCain nor Obama supported oil drilling in Alaska or off our shores, for example. Both seemed to believe that a silver bullet energy solution like hydrogen fueled cars would come like knight in shining armor and save us from the clutches of foreign oil dependency, $8/gallon gas prices and 0.1°F higher average global temperatures in the year 2108. Both seemed to think the furry little animals are more important than our economy, our livlihoods and our children’s future.

Now McCain is slowly changing his position on domestic oil drilling, but will it last? Will he deliver on his promises? Or is he just reading the tea leaves?

The last two Republican congresses spent more money than even the liberal Democrat congresses of the 1980s, despite that they promised fiscal responsibility. I thought the Republican party stood for less government and less government spending.

But what really gets me is that both parties sponsored one of the scariest laws I’ve seen in a long time. This law, called IMBRA, requires anyone wishing to correspond with a foreigner through a personals ad column to provide a criminal and family and background report and obtain signed permission before being allowed to say “hi”. Is this happening in the United States of America? Under this law, an immigration official can categorically deny your right to marry someone who lives outside the U.S. just because they don’t approve of how you met!

This law was actually introduced and shot down in 2003 because Congress didn’t buy it then! They felt that it was too controversial and denied an individual his/her Constitutional right of free speech, free association, and infringed on individual privacy rights. Why did it pass this time? Because it was renamed and sneaked into the VAWA law during the midnight hour before Christmas break in 2005.

I want a leader who will stand for individual rights and freedoms, and get government out of our personal, private affairs. Instead, government needs to focus on defending our freedoms, securing our borders and solving the energy crisis.

Get rid of laws like IMBRA and focus on what’s really important to America!

]]> By: Libertarian Party takes action in Ohio and Tennessee « Independent’s Day http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/07/01/libertarian-rising/comment-page-1/#comment-29639 Libertarian Party takes action in Ohio and Tennessee « Independent’s Day Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:54:04 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=4068#comment-29639 [...] Libertarian Party takes action in Ohio and Tennessee The Libertarian party is taking court action in both Ohio and Tennessee to get Bob Barre on the presidential ballot in November.  Both states have made it excessively difficult for third party candidates to get on the ballot by requiring far more signatures than either of the two major parties.  Read the story by clicking here. [...] [...] Libertarian Party takes action in Ohio and Tennessee The Libertarian party is taking court action in both Ohio and Tennessee to get Bob Barre on the presidential ballot in November.  Both states have made it excessively difficult for third party candidates to get on the ballot by requiring far more signatures than either of the two major parties.  Read the story by clicking here. [...]

]]> By: Alex http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/07/01/libertarian-rising/comment-page-1/#comment-29585 Alex Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:22:57 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=4068#comment-29585 > Bob Barr candidacy = Barak Obama presidency. Wrong. It's more like this: "Abusing your activists = They stay home and you lose" Voting for either McCain or Obama is a betrayal of loyalty to the Constitution. I'm glad that Obama is going to win, and that my party will be broken and completely powerless next January. The best and only way to remove the diseased, warlike, xenophobic, racist tissue from the GOP is by depriving it of nutrients, one vote at a time. The party overtly and aggressively denied me representation in the caucuses in order to show some sort of "unity" for a candidate who carried only 21% of the precincts in my state. I will not be taken for granted. I will not only vote for this candidate, but I will also not campaign for him. I won't go door to door in the rain, because if I don't respect myself, how can I expect they will? Stay Home for President 2008 > Bob Barr candidacy = Barak Obama presidency.

Wrong. It’s more like this:

“Abusing your activists = They stay home and you lose”

Voting for either McCain or Obama is a betrayal of loyalty to the Constitution. I’m glad that Obama is going to win, and that my party will be broken and completely powerless next January. The best and only way to remove the diseased, warlike, xenophobic, racist tissue from the GOP is by depriving it of nutrients, one vote at a time. The party overtly and aggressively denied me representation in the caucuses in order to show some sort of “unity” for a candidate who carried only 21% of the precincts in my state. I will not be taken for granted. I will not only vote for this candidate, but I will also not campaign for him. I won’t go door to door in the rain, because if I don’t respect myself, how can I expect they will?

Stay Home for President 2008

]]> By: Hillacrat in Denial http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/07/01/libertarian-rising/comment-page-1/#comment-29486 Hillacrat in Denial Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:38:50 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=4068#comment-29486 Alister -- what are you, in 8th grade? Surely you realize that it takes mature, seasoned voters to say, "We aren't voting for McCain because we aren't going to." Alister — what are you, in 8th grade?

Surely you realize that it takes mature, seasoned voters to say,

“We aren’t voting for McCain because we aren’t going to.”

]]> By: Bob Barr is great, but... http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/07/01/libertarian-rising/comment-page-1/#comment-29395 Bob Barr is great, but... Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:20:35 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=4068#comment-29395 To AJ & b at #s 6 & 7, and others: Stop trying to figure out who to vote for for president. Just don't vote. Find something else... not necessarily a third party for prez, b/c they won't win. Find a real deal old school Southern Democrat. The SC Dems have been virtually dead for a long time. The new Democrat is the Old Democrat. Shed the scales from your eyes and quit hoping that McCain or the GOP can save you. All of those guys are leftist northeastern operatives in disguise. To AJ & b at #s 6 & 7, and others: Stop trying to figure out who to vote for for president. Just don’t vote. Find something else… not necessarily a third party for prez, b/c they won’t win. Find a real deal old school Southern Democrat. The SC Dems have been virtually dead for a long time. The new Democrat is the Old Democrat. Shed the scales from your eyes and quit hoping that McCain or the GOP can save you. All of those guys are leftist northeastern operatives in disguise.

]]> By: rick http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/07/01/libertarian-rising/comment-page-1/#comment-29373 rick Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:57:53 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=4068#comment-29373 Be true to yourselves. Voting for a bad choice, just because it's less onerous than the alternative does nothing to break the hold both major parties have on the process. Neither candidate is good for America or those that yearn to be free. Voting for the lessor evil is still voting for evil. Be true to yourselves. Voting for a bad choice, just because it’s less onerous than the alternative does nothing to break the hold both major parties have on the process. Neither candidate is good for America or those that yearn to be free. Voting for the lessor evil is still voting for evil.

]]> By: Alister http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/07/01/libertarian-rising/comment-page-1/#comment-29335 Alister Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:38:40 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=4068#comment-29335 Why are we still griping about our bad choice for nominee? Nobody likes McCain, but he's better than Obama, so lets shut up and keep Obama out of the White House. If a McCain candidacy truly does equal an Obama presidency, it will be b/c of people like Joe. But it doesn't have to be like that. Wake up people. It's childish to say you aren't going to vote for McCain b/c you think the GOP should have nominated Romney. Duh. But that didn't happen. Let's move on. Obama would be a terrible president and we need to keep that from happening. Why are we still griping about our bad choice for nominee? Nobody likes McCain, but he’s better than Obama, so lets shut up and keep Obama out of the White House. If a McCain candidacy truly does equal an Obama presidency, it will be b/c of people like Joe. But it doesn’t have to be like that. Wake up people. It’s childish to say you aren’t going to vote for McCain b/c you think the GOP should have nominated Romney. Duh. But that didn’t happen. Let’s move on. Obama would be a terrible president and we need to keep that from happening.

]]> By: RepublicanGoneAmuck http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/07/01/libertarian-rising/comment-page-1/#comment-29326 RepublicanGoneAmuck Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:56:13 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=4068#comment-29326 I'm with Joe. What were we thinking? Why not Mitt Romney? We confound even ourselves, that's why. I’m with Joe.

What were we thinking? Why not Mitt Romney?

We confound even ourselves, that’s why.

]]> By: joe http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/07/01/libertarian-rising/comment-page-1/#comment-29319 joe Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:52:46 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=4068#comment-29319 John McCain candidacy = Barak Obama presidency. John McCain candidacy = Barak Obama presidency.

]]> By: Fan of Silence Dogood http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/07/01/libertarian-rising/comment-page-1/#comment-29306 Fan of Silence Dogood Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:09:35 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=4068#comment-29306 The suggestion that these sorts of ballot access requirements are facially unconstitutional is just plain wrong as a legal matter. The suggestion that these sorts of ballot access requirements are facially unconstitutional is just plain wrong as a legal matter.

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