More Proof That George W. Bush Is An Idiot
THE WAR ON TERROR’S “DECIDERER” HAS SOME ‘SPLAINING TO DO
FITSNews - June 30, 2008 - So let’s get this straight … we started a war to get back at the 9/11 terrorists - a war that just got re-upped today to the tune of $162 billion - and yet the White House won’t approve a special forces operation aimed at ousting the No. 1 terrorist of them all?
According to this morning’s New York Times , yes:
The new plan, outlined in a highly classified Pentagon order, was intended to eliminate some of those battles. And it was meant to pave a smoother path into the tribal areas for American commandos, who for years have bristled at what they see as Washington’s risk-averse attitude toward Special Operations missions inside Pakistan. They also argue that catching Mr. bin Laden will come only by capturing some of his senior lieutenants alive.
But more than six months later, the Special Operations forces are still waiting for the green light. The plan has been held up in Washington by the very disagreements it was meant to eliminate. A senior Defense Department official said there was “mounting frustration” in the Pentagon at the continued delay.
After the Sept. 11 attacks, President Bush committed the nation to a “war on terrorism” and made the destruction of Mr. bin Laden’s network the top priority of his presidency. But it is increasingly clear that the Bush administration will leave office with Al Qaeda having successfully relocated its base from Afghanistan to Pakistan’s tribal areas, where it has rebuilt much of its ability to attack from the region and broadcast its messages to militants across the world.
So basically, America’s “War on Terror” has been about as effective as anything else the Bush administration has done. Which is to say “not very.”
And while we have no idea how much these Special Forces missions cost (Sic Willie is sworn to secrecy), we can confirm that their price tag is significantly south of $162 billion …
Comments
By bp on June 30th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
blah, blah, blah, “Bush dumb”, blah, blah, blah…Hey genius-BananaRama doesn’t appear to be able to even say anything coherent about anything….Of course if the NYTimes prints somethign idiots like you take it as gospel..Stop being such an idiot, idiot.
By Jenny on June 30th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Hey BP,
Sounds like ad hominem there. Can YOU say anything coherent other than “idiot”, and “blah blah???”
By Not Sayin', Just Sayin' on June 30th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Being called an “idiot” by bp is not somethign to worry about, Sic.
By FWFIV on June 30th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
bp-
Based on your coherent, well reasoned and eloquently phrased reponse; you must be part of Bush’s 23%ers.
By Sage on June 30th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Who’s the idiot? or is that jack-ass. What will you do for a living if god forbid- Obuthead gets elected….is this going to be an obie-love site? Don’t step on your wee one over that
By Amazing on June 30th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
You are an idiot….. You post porn… havenit got the guts to do anything than criticize…..
And of course the NY times…. is so reliable….
For 2 years we get that rag thrown on our driveway and we aren’t paying for it….. and it goes straight to the trash can….
When will you start getting info from your own sourxces and stop regurgitating puke from liberal media….
You really got an easy job…… cut & paste…. and then add a little dribble
No wonder the Govenor got rid of YOU!!!!!!
Really worthless dribble….
How much do you make for posting CRAP like this….
Must be nice to be on the OBAMA payroll…….
105 days is all the experience he has in Federal Gov’t and apparantly you think he is the savior!!!!
God help us all….
If he isn’t contributing to your cause….. I will really be disappointed….
Cause you are amazing!
By EdMan on June 30th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Key to understanding the war on terror and war on American taxpayers-consumers is to follow the money. The war is nothing about freedom, democracy, etc. It is about shifting massive funds to the military-industrial complex and no-bid contractors. It is about de-stabilizing middle-east oil producing nations to justify running the prices up. It is about keeping America afraid so they will send more $$ to Bush-III (mccain).
Does bp get his/her money from Bush by check or by cash in a brown paper bag?
By fitsnews on June 30th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
#6,
Damn … now we’re on the Obama payroll? Wonder what Howie Rich thinks about that … or the governor … or SCRG … or Club for Growth … or John McCain … or any of the other people you morons say we’re getting the “hook-up” from …
Of course we do have to agree with your last comment, Sic Willie is in fact AMAZING!
-FITSNews
By Me on June 30th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Who has 105 days in the government? Your not talking about Obama are you? since he’s been in the Senate since `96.
Anyone can do a better job than Laural and Hardy in the White House. Bush who we all know is just plain dumb and a puppet and dick who shoots people and calls them inbreeds. And then like dick you have mccain who cracks jokes like his beach boys style song “bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran” is he really going to do much better? represent this country any better? because at this point we look pretty stupid having these two people in the house.
And amazing talk about dribble. you may have typed a lot but it doesn’t really say much….
$532 Billion so far spent on this war, most of it from other countries
and the U.S. cant step it up and hunt down the MAIN person who apparently is the one who attacked the U.S.? Apparently Osama is rebuilding his troops and camps maybe the U.S. just wants a bigger fight who knows.
By Mikel on June 30th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
The problem is that the main stream media has so influenced the weak minded people like yourself, you do not know which way is up. I will give you an example. 1. The networks and liberal rags like the NY Times spread things like how “the whole world hates us now and it is George W’s fault, that Cowboy, he has no diplomacy.” Okay to clear it up for you Bush haters, the whole world hated us long before W. The only reason most Americans are now aware is because of the Internet and 24/7 media today. Lest we forget 9/11 was PLANNED for 10 YEARS! Long before W was in the White House. Let me further clear it up for you, if the Muslims ever get rid of Israel they are then going after every Christian and any other religion other than theirs. The liberalism perpetuated by the media and by many of our schools shall be the downfall of our great nation. Check your history, since the beginning of time, every great power has seen its demise. Our will come from within by the liberals who are not strong enough to look in a mirror and say I am accountable for my own actions. (No way Jose, that would be a liberals nightmare!)
By yo on June 30th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
hey bp what another oil (bp)boss trying to say some thing stupid shut up idiot
By MikeD on June 30th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
I dont think they want to catch Bin Laden. I always use the philosophy of money. The longer we stay at war the more money we pump into bushes friends back pocket, if we dump gobs of money into these countries we will be hard pressesed to leave.
Catching bin laden now would increse calls to pull out. The goal is to enrich his friends and secure the oil for future profits.
Theyll catch him when it serves theyre financial purposes.
Remember its always about putting money in his friends pockets.
Thay will pay him back one way or the other when he gets out of office.
By Jeff Snildon on June 30th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
bunch if retards. The only reason Bush is hesitant to actually win the war on terror is because the DNC won’t let him. They hate actually winning wars because its too messy. If Bush were to authorize this secret mission, congressional Democrats would leak the info to the press and kill the operation (as they have in the past). They have shut down new weapons systems and successful military operations for years now through leaks. They dont want to win. Remember the leak in the NYT that told bin Ladin we had a tracker on his sat phone?? Thanks Dems. Thanks NYT. Seems the NYT is now a necessary read for all terror organizations. The DNC wouldn’t let MacArthur win in Korea, Nixon in Vietnam (they cut off all supplies to the South and let them be taken over by the north), they hated Reagan’s victory in Grenada so they made sure we lost in Nicaragua, etc. Etc. Praise God for Bush. He’s actually trying to do something. Obama just wants to talk to the terrorists as if we can trust them.
By John on June 30th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Yes….highly classified Pentagon document….and this write got hands on that document. Sure!
By Kai on June 30th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Funny, bp, I’m a Liberal and I wholeheartedly support the war against al-Qaeda - as many up here do. I have 3 main objections to the current situation, however:
1) We haven’t caught Osama yet. The war in Afghanistan is going back to the Taliban. Wasn’t THAT the point of 9/11?
2) Al-Qaeda wasn’t working with Iraq. Bush admitted this himself years ago.
3) I haven’t received anything out of the war. If you want to talk about history, war is about a reallocation of resources from the defeated party to the victors. Where is my flat-panel tv? I’m sure the Iraqis have plenty of them. Nab all you can, load it on a boat and put it in a big pile downtown USA so we can take our pick. W however seems to think that building someone ELSE’S nation and spending MY 600 billion dollars to do it is the way a war should go. Sounds like a traitor to me. The Constitution outlines strict rules on how to deal with those types of people. Fortunately for conservatives, you can get away with that kind of thing because fucking your fellow American in the ass by spreading their hard-earned dollars around the globe on worthless nation-building projects is not as much an affront to their “values” as a blowjob. (Funny coincidence, how the conservative party is populated with homosexual pedophiles as well…)
I whole-heartedly agree that America is fighting a war we’ve been building up to since mid-cold war. Are we disliked by the world? Absolutely, no one likes the top dog, especially when the dog is on top of them. Have we been disliked for a long time? Heck yeah. I’m sure it started before World War Two when we told the Chinese they could fuck themselves when they asked us to help them against the Japanese in 1938. Or when we “liberated” Texas from Mexico in the 19th century. Unfortunately, having someone as bright as Bush doesn’t necessarily help our global image any. The man can’t pronounce NUCLEAR. Is that what everyone can expect from the greatest nation this planet has ever seen? Standards, anyone?
The Muslims can’t get rid of Israel. Don’t even postulate that. We may as well theorize if Reagan consulted with leprechauns for his economic theories. (It’s trickle-down-elicious!)
The demise of a nation can’t be predicted. Historically, however (MA in history, here), most nations meet their demise due to either money or a foreign army. Count out the latter, because if anyone stepped on American soil and thought they could subjugate the populace, you’d see the biggest collection of armed Liberals and Conservatives in perfect agreement since the Revolutionary War. If it’s a body count the enemy wants, they’re definitely coming out on the shit end of that stick.
Money is the other large factor, and that, I believe, takes power over petty ideologies that change name and definition every decade or so (current day Conservatives were called Neo-Liberals in the 20s). Blaming the demise of the nation on a group of people in a particular paradigm is stupid. There’s as many colors of Liberals as there are branches of xtian denominations. I don’t think conservatives want to end the American Empire, and I really don’t think their outdated and backward ideology will cause it to end either. Slow down, maybe, but not end. I give the country more credit that the potential of it being taken down by a bunch of inbred wood-worshiping child-molesting fat undereducated gun-toting pill-popping red-neck value-belted racist hypocritical ya-hoos. As annoying as they are, they are Americans, and I will be the LAST person in this country to tell them they are not entitled to an opinion. I cherish their freedom of speech because I love mine (obviously). This country is dead when people are silenced, regardless of what they have to say.
So let’s fight the wars that have a purpose. (No, Iraq serves no purpose because Osama is in Afghanistan.) Let’s not be afraid of the “other” out there who tells us they want us dead and give up our social liberties for fabricated security (which is what Liberals are mainly concerned with). Don’t listen to sensationalist media, conservative OR liberal - and don’t get mad about it, that’s what they want. Finally, don’t doubt the good intentions of your fellow American, we all want this nation coming out on top. If you want to call us traitors, say it to our face. By the way, I support the 2nd amendment in anticipation of that day.
By Silence Dogood on June 30th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Mikel, you noted ” Lest we forget 9/11 was PLANNED for 10 YEARS! Long before W was in the White House. ” I don’t think people are pointing to 9/11as the reason people hate us, but rather the inept actions we took afterward in just about any and every are you can think of. For the record, even most libs with any brains realize that the U.S. had a huge out pouring of good will after Sept. 11th - hell we even had the morale high ground.
Instead of basing your thoughts on the post hoc logic of thinking the media is a bunch of stupid liberal poo-poo heads, and determing through your own beliefs about what a 24 news cycle has done, I have an idea for you. This is not a liberal scum-bag idea or a smart ass attempt to say I told you so. Go talk to friends or friends of friends who have worked an traveled extensively for more than the past 10 years and PARTICULARLY those who work in the state department. For decades working for the U.S. state department openned up doors, post Bush (specificially since the second half of his second term) it closes doors. They will tell you that attitudes have changed significantly and those who are angry with America have spread from the outter edges of the spectrum with the chip on their shoulders to much more main stream people who source legitimate gripes and not just the usual anti-American rhetoric that smaller fringes always have and always will say no matter how noble or adept our foreign policy is. Bushe’s and Condi Rice’s level of ineptitude and inability to deal with issues has been masterful only in that is has been such perfect “how not to” in foreign policy.
The media has actually not been that hard on Bush about Iraq consinder that even if troop deaths got to zero (which I wish they were) there is no indication that there has been one iota of progress toward the actual goal of “forcing” free will and a representative form of government on a people who are politically unelightened and don’t want our form of govenrment. I.e. no matter what the level of violence the actual progress towards any sort of goal has been ziltch, zero, nada. Our troops have preformed admirably against horrible challenges, but effectively we have attorneys doing the job of physicians over there.
I have still never heard anyone define victory in Iraq other than “not losing” or “not leaving,” I sure hope we can get in more conflicts like this among indigenous people who don’t want us there in the first place and are in the midst of civil and klan war fare (note: sarcasm on the last sentence).
By Toyota Cowasakis Aunt on June 30th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
New York Times??????
Man sic you are Sick
By wtobias on June 30th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
it seams to me the ulta libs and the media are really the ones who hate america. every story is full of there narrow minded views and whats worse are the ones who fall for it i dont like sell outs and any one waving a flagg at the start of this and the ones who are not now are sell outs im glad this generation wasnt around in the the 40s because we would be under the nazi flag
By cloud9ine on June 30th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
@MikeI: Yes the Isalmists hated you long before. But guess what, the rest of the world was with you until dumbass took charge. And we were with you when you were attacked.
But then, when you attack Jack when Joe hits your people, deliberately keeping Joe safe, it’s either being dumb or playing dumb. I believe the latter.
By tired of the idiocy on June 30th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
What Americans need to realize is that we are going to be fighting this war one way or the other. Bush’s fumbling around is incidental. The big bucks economy scares are incidental. This war is about freedom, even if our govn’t and general citizenry don’t understand that. This is a Muslim vs Freedom issue. Better to fight it there than here on our own soil. These people hate us and want to kill us because we don’t share their religious idiology and fanaticsm. Nothing will change their views of us except for conversion or annihilation. Go read your history books. In their world, oil isn’t needed because they live without modern techonologies in hovels with 57 children and 15 wives. WTF do they need oil for? It is a tribal war lord society. And they won’t be satisfied until everyone is living in hovels and kneeling to a personified diety five times a day. People who kneel to personified dieties are easy to control. Power makes small minds feel important. This is the crux of the issue. So, I’m with you Kai- hopefully we won’t be shooting each other over idiotic religious views in our streets, but it is certainly possible; we’ll just have to pray to previously mentioned personified dieties (of your choice, of course) that the democrats won’t continue trying to disarm us if they get into office.
By USA Reader on June 30th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
The “underminers” of true Republicans, and President Bush in particular [ever since he rightly knocked McCain out the first time in 2000], have a candidate: McCain. These forces have been thwarting President Bush during his entire administration. They ‘possess’ ninny, flimsy, silly, bubble-headed people like Nancy Pelosi, et al. These operatives would no doubt have Osama Bin Laden’s head on a platter soon after the inauguration, had McCain been able to pull off this whole farce of an election.
Fortunately, he will not — but OBL’s platter is still being prepared by honest, forthright, loyal and CAPABLE US military forces — who are about to blast back on the scene with RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION!!!
By Jimmy Byrnes on June 30th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Attn # 9 Mr. Obama has been in the US Senate since
January 3, 2005.
Prior to that he served in the Illinois STATE Senate.
By Please grow a brain on June 30th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
George Bush is an idiot = true statement
Anyone who honestly believes Bush and Cheney have actually been trying to kill bin Laden are very gullible and should turn off their Faux News propaganda machine.
You do not need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows, and we do not need the New York Times to tell us Bush is incompetent with no intention of catching bin laden.
We invaded Iraq - why couldn’t we have invaded Pakistan - that is where our “intelligence” claims bin laden is
Instead watch Bush/Cheney now try to go bomb Iran.
I see how fighting oil rich countries who have not attacked us drives up the price of oil , but it does no good catching the guy who bombed us -7 years ago hiding out in Pakistan .
Vote Bush /McCain for 4 more years!!!!!!!!!!
By Mikel on July 1st, 2008 at 12:50 am
The biggest mistake with all the smart people in the White House made was NOT to Declare Victory early and never speak the word war again. Victory was secured when Saddam was captured and their armies crushed. It should have been all over the news. In any other conflict, nothing with so few casualties, albeit any casualties are too many, no matter how small the number. They should have changed all reference to the Iraq situation as we have passed the “war” part and need to enter the rebuilding and stabilization faze. But to the liberal media that would not sell and then they could not Bush Bash. No lets give the liberal press a little bone we did some things wrong and could have done a lot better. Well that would have happened to any one of us, this is fighting we have never seen, what enemy dresses up mentally challenged women with a fake pregnancy prosthetic and blows them up. We are not dealing in anything we understand, just ask some troops on the ground and you know. From one Intel insider I have know for many years who initially was not a big fan if the Iraq situation. Then he got to see first hand on the ground for 4 month clips and heading back shortly. He is like a different person, believes he is protecting his family and ours. States without hesitation and complete belief that if we were not there, he believes 100% we would have had at a MINIMUM another 9/11 if not multiple ones. He says we truly have no conception of how fanatical they are. Within the last week one of the groups publicly beheaded two of their own people they claimed gave information to the Americans, LIVE right in from of a crowd, they started by slitting their throats. But instead of looking at that lets focus on something W did wrong to cause all this. I mean come on already. We have not seen evil like these radical insurgents since Hitler. Make no mistake they are evil.
By Calhoun Fawls on July 1st, 2008 at 6:49 am
I watched a show on saddam on the National Geographic channel last night. When it sunk in that hundreds of thousands, that right, hundreds of thousands were murdered by Saddam and his, well, I get what Bush tried. Rumsfeld was stupid by ignoring what the chiefs wanted to do from the start, but the President was not an idiot in deciding to take down that evil man. If watched the horror in that show of the digging up of graves, you will want to vote McCain.
By an idiot on July 1st, 2008 at 8:01 am
Ater reading these commennts, God help us.
By Yikes-ers on July 1st, 2008 at 10:00 am
Mikel, would you do any less to protect your homeland than the ‘fanatics’ of Iraq if an outside force were in the U.S. trying to impose its form of government on us?
Since Iraq had nothing to do with the first Sept. 11th, what leads your friend to believe there would be more if we were swatting the hornets nest in Iraq. After all, Sept. 11th was ultimately preformed by 20 persons - despite the remote planning and financing, are we to believe that entities that WERE NOT EVEN IN IRAQ BEFORE WE ARRIVED are sooooo tied down there - after entering of their own accord - that 20 guys can slip away for a second terrorist attack on U.S. soil?
By Expat on August 13th, 2008 at 4:12 am
IT simply amazes me how ignorant posters here seem to be.
Hashing and rehashing the Repugs VS Democryte battle…”a house divided…”
OOh ignorant americans, follow the money, study and defend your constitution, do not expect either of your political parties to look after your interests….. you will have a good start
Yup..i left after W got re-upped…I’ll be back when sanity and education overcome panic, ignorance and mass media.
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