Comments on: Creating Second Class State Employees

By: Mrs.Peacock(nospaces)

Mrs.Peacock(nospaces) — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:40:55 +0000

mmm.icouldn’trememberwhichpostididthaton.mrs.peacockhadalittlesinkin’spell.losiento,seniors.

By: local yokel

local yokel — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:18:17 +0000

West Rhino,

Tooty Tah or Hokey Pokey; I use both and they work fine. Variety is the spice of life. : )

Re TERI: In the state agency (not Education, BTW) where I worked, TERI created a population of deadweight employees, most of whom were sitting on their fannies, clockwatching, waiting for their 5 years to run out and enjoying their massive amounts of accrued leave. Meanwhile, the newer employees, who might have moved up had the TERI -iers gone ahead and retired, were in a holding pattern where they got burned out and/or left for better opportunities. The end result was an immplosion of the motivation that existed pre-TERI.

By: Ron Turner

Ron Turner — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:31:17 +0000

Thanks Commonman!
Now I remember. You’re correct and in view of the lawmakers facing an election year, they chose to saddle the taxpayers of SC with the unbearable tax burden of exhorbitant unfunded liability for our SC retirment system. THANKS LAWMAKERS! VOTE THESE RASCALS OUT IN NOVEMBER!!

By: Commonman

Commonman — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 01:38:51 +0000

Actually, the IRS said that the Retirement System could not offer a retirement option to teachers and not to all state employees who were members of the same System, ie the SCRS. I won’t go through all the rhetoric for and against TERI, but the bottom line was that the IRS said feed both groups from the same pot or don’t feed either one. I believe it was an election year and the General Assembly chose to feed both groups.

By: Ron Turner

Ron Turner — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:18:57 +0000

Point well taken Will and thanks!
I’m sure Will’s familiar and many of you are aware of the TERI program in SC. This is a sweetheart deal which has enormously increased the unfunded liability that SC has for it’s retirees. The acronym stands for Teacher and Employee Retiree Incentive program and allows a state employee to retire and begin accumulating their dsretirement annuity o a deferred bases without terminating employment. Will as you know, this originated FOR TEACHERS ONLY and state employees cried fowl as to DISCRIMINATION and were then also included in the program. I don’t remember if there was litigation that resulted in the inclusion of all state employees or the threat of litigation. At any rate, it would not surprise me if the same thing happened in this case and all of a sudden SC Taxpayers will be subsidizing down payments and interest rates for all of our state employees which would be an enormous and unbearable burden as is TERI.

By: Calhoun Fawls

Calhoun Fawls — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:04:41 +0000

Sic, what’s next? Are you going to trash national guardsman because the government helps them with home loans? Geez. Teachers are not getting rich off the state. Fat cat contractors do that. And, those in private education have a way of making some consultants pretty well off to. It shows little class to criticize a break by people who make so much less than you.

By: Mrs. Peacock

Mrs. Peacock — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:29:36 +0000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI6Ms0b4q-4

Are y’all crooked pricks getting it yet?

That’s you: Donnie Myers, Joel Collins, “Lt.” “Pro”dan?

“La Socialista” is complicit in there too.

By: Mrs. Peacock

Mrs. Peacock — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:05:46 +0000

Palmetto CPA & Willie,

I’ve just connected the dots that could precipitate the next Armageddon:

Ashley Smith:Joel Collins:Donnie Myers

2005 had a SUCKING script for many of us honest FOLKS, eh ?!?

By: west_rhino

west_rhino — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 00:51:22 +0000

Palm etto CPA, I suspect that Wil et Fils were a bit more effective than anything Rex would allow to behired in Williamsburg OR Jasper counties…

local yokel, one has to wonder that tooty ta ta ultimately has any significant advantages over a number of nursery rhymes or even the “Hokey Pokey”… alas early childhood eddekashen are more complicated than economics or rocket science.

By: local yokel

local yokel — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:53:45 +0000

I totally agree with your take on the two-tier system for state employees. SC kisses teachers’ butts and leaves other state employees to struggle with minimal COLA raises, no merit pay, nothing. (Yes I am an ex-state employee. SC is a lousy employer.)

Got to comment on your slam of the Tooty-Tahin’ Teachers. Tooty-Tah actually has educational value. I was “trained” to “Tooty-tah” at a workshop paid for by the county institution where I work. I work with young children for a living (Hint: I am not a teacher but I work in a place with lots of books).
The kids have to memorize each part of the activity and repeat it like “The House That Jack Built”, which is called a “cumulative tale” BTW. “Tooty-Tah” operates on the same educational premise and helps increase memory and attention to detail. We do this activitiy at the end of a storytime as a way to release the kids’ energy and get them moving after sitting for 20 minutes.

Methinks Sic Willie needs to stick to what he knows (politics and spicy inuendo) and leave the early childhood ed logistics to us professionals. ; )