Also, if your are insinuating that I am some sort of crazed racist, then you just confirmed Mande’s original point in her post! Ha! moron…

Whatever. I think I made my points clearly enough, and I’ll let it go at that.

If Will Folks is happy that Mande’s commentary on race is bringing additional commentary like that of Barnaby Jones, then congratulations to you all.

Wow, for someone who drones on incessantly about the subject, you are surprisingly ignorant regarding the major research done in the field. By credible critics I assume you you mean liberal nincompoops who are too lazy or stupid to actually read the book. Maybe you should read it instead of spouting out false liberal talking points designed to politize scientific research and promote ill-founded social policy making. In fact, there is almost no disagreement among legitimate scientists on the subject and the only discussion is about how much is genetic and how much is environmental. Numerous studies have shown the environmental factors alone cannot account for a substantial portion of the IQ differential. You can shuck and jive all you want, but facts are facts.

Instead of attacking Mandy, whose argument IS factually correct although not politically correct, maybe you should do a little independent study in this area of science instead of parroting what you hear on Air America Radio.

In any case, I never attacked scientists in this discussion. I did, however, point out that, in contrast to Mande’s arguments, there are legitimate criticisms of this race/IQ theory that go well beyond “playing the race card.”

And Mande seemed to take all this pretty seriously — the “race card,” the “lab findings,” etc. — until she was thoroughly called out here.

Her published, headlined post on the front page of FITSNews failed to provide any data or research and mischaracterized the statements of Dr. Watson. He wasn’t citing “laboratory findings” or whatever.

And, secondly — probably more importantly — she launched into a diatribe about liberal hypocrisy, the “race card,” “political correctness,” and so on, when the deal is that critics of assertions like the one made by Dr. Watson are not merely jumping to the racism claim. There are lots of reasons beyond charges of racism to challenge the notion that there are intelligence differences between blacks, whites, Asians, and whoever else. Here are several that are voiced:

-How distinct are races, from a genetic standpoint? How “scientific” is our understanding of race?
-Exactly what do IQ tests measure?
-Psychological theory suggests that there are 7 types of intelligences…are they all thoroughly understood and measured by IQ tests?
-Are prenatal and postnatal environmental differences taken into account? In other words, what if black children in America typically have less prenatal nourishment as well as less physical and intellectual nourishment during pre-school years — do we know how much this may account for IQ differences?

Her “race card” charge really isn’t very well-founded. And, yet, considering our nation’s racist past — as well as those groups who continue to push racist agendas and ideologies — it’s perfectly understandable that people recoil at this claim of racial superiority/inferiority based on race.

Bottom line is that Mande is thoroughly off-base. I would hope Will Folks is thoroughly embarrassed to feature such content on his website.