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		<title>By: Top Tree Hugger&#8217;s Pot Gets Hotter :: FITSNews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top Tree Hugger&#8217;s Pot Gets Hotter :: FITSNews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 04:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] still, there is mounting evidence that CVSC Executive Director Ann Timberlake is in serious trouble - not only with a growing group of lawmakers who obviously don&#8217;t hold [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] still, there is mounting evidence that CVSC Executive Director Ann Timberlake is in serious trouble &#8211; not only with a growing group of lawmakers who obviously don&#8217;t hold [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Illegal Mail Allegations Jeopardize Environmentalists&#8217; Tax Standing :: FITSNews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Illegal Mail Allegations Jeopardize Environmentalists&#8217; Tax Standing :: FITSNews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Incidentally, the CVSC has already come under fire for alleged illegal activity after reports surfaced earlier this year that its director, Ann Timberlake, was trading her group&#8217;s endorsement in exchange for votes. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Incidentally, the CVSC has already come under fire for alleged illegal activity after reports surfaced earlier this year that its director, Ann Timberlake, was trading her group&#8217;s endorsement in exchange for votes. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Recovering Lobbyist</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/05/02/trading-endorsements-for-votes/comment-page-1/#comment-20420</link>
		<dc:creator>Recovering Lobbyist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 20:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until recently I was a lobbyist at the State House.  I can personally verify that Ms. Timberlake lobbied legislators on the Barnwell bill.  I had no involvement in that bill, but I was working on a different bill before the same committee at about the same time.  I personally observed Ms. Timberlake engaging in what I would consider lobbying (Timberlake to Representative: &quot;will you vote against the Barnwell bill?&quot;  Representative: &quot;yes.&quot;)

The only question is whether what Ms. Timberlake was doing was legal.  Her organization employs a lobbyist.  That makes her a lobbyist principal.  Her organization also runs a PAC.  There is a certain amount of latitude for lobbyist principals.  The questions is did she cross the line.  Now, if she promised an endorsement in exchange for a vote, that is clearly trading something of value for a vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until recently I was a lobbyist at the State House.  I can personally verify that Ms. Timberlake lobbied legislators on the Barnwell bill.  I had no involvement in that bill, but I was working on a different bill before the same committee at about the same time.  I personally observed Ms. Timberlake engaging in what I would consider lobbying (Timberlake to Representative: &#8220;will you vote against the Barnwell bill?&#8221;  Representative: &#8220;yes.&#8221;)</p>
<p>The only question is whether what Ms. Timberlake was doing was legal.  Her organization employs a lobbyist.  That makes her a lobbyist principal.  Her organization also runs a PAC.  There is a certain amount of latitude for lobbyist principals.  The questions is did she cross the line.  Now, if she promised an endorsement in exchange for a vote, that is clearly trading something of value for a vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennybob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennybob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 17:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Birds Nest

Sorry that my comments offended you.  Perhaps I should be more clear.

I am a very conservative minded conversationalist.   I do want to see our economy grow.  I want to see good jobs come to our state.  Heck. I am personally in favor of nuclear power.

To say that saving 1% of our forest lands for future generations and striving to make sure we have clean drinking water are hypocritical makes me question you motives here.

If you know of any company ready to invest in our state, let me know.  If they will be good corporate citizens, I will be willing to stand with you before any panel to make them welcome.

Dennybob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Birds Nest</p>
<p>Sorry that my comments offended you.  Perhaps I should be more clear.</p>
<p>I am a very conservative minded conversationalist.   I do want to see our economy grow.  I want to see good jobs come to our state.  Heck. I am personally in favor of nuclear power.</p>
<p>To say that saving 1% of our forest lands for future generations and striving to make sure we have clean drinking water are hypocritical makes me question you motives here.</p>
<p>If you know of any company ready to invest in our state, let me know.  If they will be good corporate citizens, I will be willing to stand with you before any panel to make them welcome.</p>
<p>Dennybob</p>
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		<title>By: Whatever</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/05/02/trading-endorsements-for-votes/comment-page-1/#comment-20042</link>
		<dc:creator>Whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 16:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone knows that these &quot;conservation groups&quot; are incredibly hypocritical and want us to basically live in a bird&#039;s nest.  Protecting the environment is a cause we should all participate in, but advocating policies that prevent economic investments/growth for South Carolina is really what groups like Ann&#039;s are all about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone knows that these &#8220;conservation groups&#8221; are incredibly hypocritical and want us to basically live in a bird&#8217;s nest.  Protecting the environment is a cause we should all participate in, but advocating policies that prevent economic investments/growth for South Carolina is really what groups like Ann&#8217;s are all about.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennybob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennybob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 15:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sic Willie, you may have overreached here.

First let me say I do enjoy your blog for entertainment value and occasionally for snipits of real information.

Your attack on Ann Timberlake shows just how much our people in Columbia see bogymen behind every tree.  Please get her accusers on the record if you want to spread the innuendos in your recent article.

With all due respect, if you have a problem with an endorsement Annâ€™s board has made, speak to it.  Do not shoot the messenger.

BTW:  I would vote for the possum.

Dennybob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sic Willie, you may have overreached here.</p>
<p>First let me say I do enjoy your blog for entertainment value and occasionally for snipits of real information.</p>
<p>Your attack on Ann Timberlake shows just how much our people in Columbia see bogymen behind every tree.  Please get her accusers on the record if you want to spread the innuendos in your recent article.</p>
<p>With all due respect, if you have a problem with an endorsement Annâ€™s board has made, speak to it.  Do not shoot the messenger.</p>
<p>BTW:  I would vote for the possum.</p>
<p>Dennybob</p>
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		<title>By: backyard burger</title>
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		<dc:creator>backyard burger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 03:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These Conservation Clowns are endorsing candidates all over the state, hell even Republicans are being endorsed by them and then these so called Republicans are going out of acting as if they are pro-business, pro-nuke, etc - hey baby you can&#039;t have your cake and eat it to --- wake up people before these tree huggin, hacky sack wacks paddy wack us all ----
oh and pass the real bug spray and the burgers while you are at it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These Conservation Clowns are endorsing candidates all over the state, hell even Republicans are being endorsed by them and then these so called Republicans are going out of acting as if they are pro-business, pro-nuke, etc &#8211; hey baby you can&#8217;t have your cake and eat it to &#8212; wake up people before these tree huggin, hacky sack wacks paddy wack us all &#8212;-<br />
oh and pass the real bug spray and the burgers while you are at it!</p>
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		<title>By: Oh yeah?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oh yeah?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 18:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is the beautiful part about baseless conjecture with no on the record sources.  &quot;A number of lobbyists&quot;, none of whom will step forward....mmmmm. is this because this never took place?  Probably.

Watch I can do it to:  A number of lobbyists overheard Will Folks offering Jake Knotts Hugh Leatherman&#039;s S class mercedes if he promised to beat up Dan Cooper.  Knotts reportedly beat up Hugh Leatherman and ran over Will Folks in his new big body benz.

Both stories have the same amount of validity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is the beautiful part about baseless conjecture with no on the record sources.  &#8220;A number of lobbyists&#8221;, none of whom will step forward&#8230;.mmmmm. is this because this never took place?  Probably.</p>
<p>Watch I can do it to:  A number of lobbyists overheard Will Folks offering Jake Knotts Hugh Leatherman&#8217;s S class mercedes if he promised to beat up Dan Cooper.  Knotts reportedly beat up Hugh Leatherman and ran over Will Folks in his new big body benz.</p>
<p>Both stories have the same amount of validity.</p>
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		<title>By: Palmetto Pulse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palmetto Pulse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 17:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Members represented Conservation Voters
Published in the Beaufort Gazette Sun, Apr 22, 2007

I write to confirm that the recent guest editorial titled &quot;Two Republican candidates are conservation-minded&quot; correctly represents the position of Conservation Voters with regard to the upcoming Senate election. 

After reviewing all the candidates, their past records, responses to questionnaires and interviews and opinions of local conservation leaders, the CVSC board decided to withhold the endorsement of a single candidate for two reasons: 

The past conservation records of Rep. Catherine Ceips and Rep. Richard Chalk do not merit endorsement even though they have improved this year; and

The County Council records of Wes Newton and Tom Taylor are acceptable to the conservation community. 

Because this is a critical election for the future of Beaufort County , we asked our three Beaufort County Board members, Harriet Keyserling, Dennis Glaves and Marty Gresham, to author a commentary to inform voters about the conservation records of the Republican candidates. 

Voters also may visit our Web site at conservationvotersofsc.org to view the 2004 and 2006 Conservation Scorecards that will show how Reps. Ceips and Chalk voted on such state issues as Conservation Bank funding, billboards, regulatory takings, factory hog farms and wetlands protection. 

Whether Conservation Voters issues an endorsement in a specific race, we want voters to have information to help them choose candidates who are committed to protecting natural resources and their communities&#039; ability to manage for quality growth. 

Ann Timberlake 

executive director 

Conservation Voters of SC 

Columbia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Members represented Conservation Voters<br />
Published in the Beaufort Gazette Sun, Apr 22, 2007</p>
<p>I write to confirm that the recent guest editorial titled &#8220;Two Republican candidates are conservation-minded&#8221; correctly represents the position of Conservation Voters with regard to the upcoming Senate election. </p>
<p>After reviewing all the candidates, their past records, responses to questionnaires and interviews and opinions of local conservation leaders, the CVSC board decided to withhold the endorsement of a single candidate for two reasons: </p>
<p>The past conservation records of Rep. Catherine Ceips and Rep. Richard Chalk do not merit endorsement even though they have improved this year; and</p>
<p>The County Council records of Wes Newton and Tom Taylor are acceptable to the conservation community. </p>
<p>Because this is a critical election for the future of Beaufort County , we asked our three Beaufort County Board members, Harriet Keyserling, Dennis Glaves and Marty Gresham, to author a commentary to inform voters about the conservation records of the Republican candidates. </p>
<p>Voters also may visit our Web site at conservationvotersofsc.org to view the 2004 and 2006 Conservation Scorecards that will show how Reps. Ceips and Chalk voted on such state issues as Conservation Bank funding, billboards, regulatory takings, factory hog farms and wetlands protection. </p>
<p>Whether Conservation Voters issues an endorsement in a specific race, we want voters to have information to help them choose candidates who are committed to protecting natural resources and their communities&#8217; ability to manage for quality growth. </p>
<p>Ann Timberlake </p>
<p>executive director </p>
<p>Conservation Voters of SC </p>
<p>Columbia</p>
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		<title>By: probiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>probiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 17:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only surprise is it took Sic Willie as long as it did to figure out what was going on.

&quot;Latecomer&quot; is correct. A number of lobbyists heard Timberlake offer the CVSC&#039;s support, and I cannot think of one person in the lobby who is not aware who this &quot;particular&quot; senator is.

Sic is so far up a former governor&#039;s staff member&#039;s ass I am just shocked this was not posted when it happened last tuesday night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only surprise is it took Sic Willie as long as it did to figure out what was going on.</p>
<p>&#8220;Latecomer&#8221; is correct. A number of lobbyists heard Timberlake offer the CVSC&#8217;s support, and I cannot think of one person in the lobby who is not aware who this &#8220;particular&#8221; senator is.</p>
<p>Sic is so far up a former governor&#8217;s staff member&#8217;s ass I am just shocked this was not posted when it happened last tuesday night.</p>
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