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		<title>By: mad teacher</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/04/25/4-star-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-62704</link>
		<dc:creator>mad teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish people would look at the facts about teachers!!!  We are the lowest paid &quot;white collar&quot; workers!  Though I have not heard the public complain about that.  We dish out at least a couple of THOUSAND dollars each in materials that our district does not pay for.....any complaints?...no.....  We give our heart, love, soul, all in the name of education, only to be disrespected by parents and students..... and still NO complaints by the public!!!  Most of us will be paying student loans well into retirement.  People joke about teachers being poor...well it&#039;s not just a joke we really don&#039;t make the buckets of money that CEO&#039;s, accountants, and other educated people make.  FITSNews you should be ashamed of yourselves, if it were up to you guys we would stay at a roach infested hotel, and eat Jacks $2.99 value menu for days!  I bet who ever wrote the story makes way more than the $29,000 starting salary of a first year teacher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish people would look at the facts about teachers!!!  We are the lowest paid &#8220;white collar&#8221; workers!  Though I have not heard the public complain about that.  We dish out at least a couple of THOUSAND dollars each in materials that our district does not pay for&#8230;..any complaints?&#8230;no&#8230;..  We give our heart, love, soul, all in the name of education, only to be disrespected by parents and students&#8230;.. and still NO complaints by the public!!!  Most of us will be paying student loans well into retirement.  People joke about teachers being poor&#8230;well it&#8217;s not just a joke we really don&#8217;t make the buckets of money that CEO&#8217;s, accountants, and other educated people make.  FITSNews you should be ashamed of yourselves, if it were up to you guys we would stay at a roach infested hotel, and eat Jacks $2.99 value menu for days!  I bet who ever wrote the story makes way more than the $29,000 starting salary of a first year teacher.</p>
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		<title>By: fitsnews</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/04/25/4-star-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-18976</link>
		<dc:creator>fitsnews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BIN-

Thanks for sharing these thoughts of Mr. Hutchins, who until recently was posing as an objective journalist in this state.

Always good to know the media&#039;s take on things. 

-FITSNews</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BIN-</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing these thoughts of Mr. Hutchins, who until recently was posing as an objective journalist in this state.</p>
<p>Always good to know the media&#8217;s take on things. </p>
<p>-FITSNews</p>
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		<title>By: Believe It Not (a.k.a. Sic Willie's Stalker)</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/04/25/4-star-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-18956</link>
		<dc:creator>Believe It Not (a.k.a. Sic Willie's Stalker)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Letter - The State 
Saturdayâ€™s Letters to the Editor
â€¢ There is no â€˜choiceâ€™: support public schools 

Last Saturdayâ€™s guest column by South Carolinians for Responsible Governmentâ€™s Randy Page revealed the fundamental agenda of the school choice lobby who have hijacked the S.C. debate on education for years: the desire to subvert public education as the first step to disintegrating our state government.

Page wrote that voters should be â€œskepticalâ€ of politicians calling for reform and change and blamed an association of government bodies for

If anything, people should be skeptical of Pageâ€™s organization, which has publicly fought against disclosing the names of its rich, white, out-of-state, plutocratic, apologist donors.

Voters should be equally skeptical of the entire incestuous network of S.C. voucher-lobbying organizations here designed by New York anti-government financier Howard Rich.

It should be abundantly clear that Page doesnâ€™t hold the priorities of South Carolinaâ€™s middle-class and working-poor families in the highest regard.

Furthermore, it is intellectually dishonest to imply that his organization is pushing its school choice agenda because its members care about the SAT scores and graduation rates of S.C. public schoolchildren. They really want to rip government out of education because they know more of their tax dollars go toward funding it than anything else.

Page and his cohorts are part of an ideological movement to smash government without any real concern for the people who are affected by it.

What the school-choice lobbyists donâ€™t seem to realize is that even if they got what they wanted, and all S.C. schools became privatized, the layers of government that would need to be applied to the process would bankrupt any kind of abstract limited-government philosophy they were trying to achieve. Their ideas have failed to gain any sort of legislative traction because of their obsession with abstract ideas, their failure to work in practicalities and the fact that S.C. electorate just fundamentally doesnâ€™t agree with them.

Allowing groups such as South Carolinians for Responsible Government and people such as Randy Page to dominate the debate on education in our state would be like hiring Charles Manson as the school guidance counselor.

COREY HUTCHINS

Columbia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Letter &#8211; The State<br />
Saturdayâ€™s Letters to the Editor<br />
â€¢ There is no â€˜choiceâ€™: support public schools </p>
<p>Last Saturdayâ€™s guest column by South Carolinians for Responsible Governmentâ€™s Randy Page revealed the fundamental agenda of the school choice lobby who have hijacked the S.C. debate on education for years: the desire to subvert public education as the first step to disintegrating our state government.</p>
<p>Page wrote that voters should be â€œskepticalâ€ of politicians calling for reform and change and blamed an association of government bodies for</p>
<p>If anything, people should be skeptical of Pageâ€™s organization, which has publicly fought against disclosing the names of its rich, white, out-of-state, plutocratic, apologist donors.</p>
<p>Voters should be equally skeptical of the entire incestuous network of S.C. voucher-lobbying organizations here designed by New York anti-government financier Howard Rich.</p>
<p>It should be abundantly clear that Page doesnâ€™t hold the priorities of South Carolinaâ€™s middle-class and working-poor families in the highest regard.</p>
<p>Furthermore, it is intellectually dishonest to imply that his organization is pushing its school choice agenda because its members care about the SAT scores and graduation rates of S.C. public schoolchildren. They really want to rip government out of education because they know more of their tax dollars go toward funding it than anything else.</p>
<p>Page and his cohorts are part of an ideological movement to smash government without any real concern for the people who are affected by it.</p>
<p>What the school-choice lobbyists donâ€™t seem to realize is that even if they got what they wanted, and all S.C. schools became privatized, the layers of government that would need to be applied to the process would bankrupt any kind of abstract limited-government philosophy they were trying to achieve. Their ideas have failed to gain any sort of legislative traction because of their obsession with abstract ideas, their failure to work in practicalities and the fact that S.C. electorate just fundamentally doesnâ€™t agree with them.</p>
<p>Allowing groups such as South Carolinians for Responsible Government and people such as Randy Page to dominate the debate on education in our state would be like hiring Charles Manson as the school guidance counselor.</p>
<p>COREY HUTCHINS</p>
<p>Columbia</p>
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		<title>By: palmetto pwn'd</title>
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		<dc:creator>palmetto pwn'd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all those are bills from the dept of education - not from the districts - so they are state bureaucrats, not teachers who are wasting the money.

school choice is a threat to money-wasting administrators, not effective classroom teachers who want what&#039;s best for children</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all those are bills from the dept of education &#8211; not from the districts &#8211; so they are state bureaucrats, not teachers who are wasting the money.</p>
<p>school choice is a threat to money-wasting administrators, not effective classroom teachers who want what&#8217;s best for children</p>
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		<title>By: A Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terance,
If it has worked so well for so long, why the criticism?  I wouldn&#039;t know what goes on at most conferences, since the funding has largely dried up (it apparently only still exists for the &quot;educrats&quot; in the Department of Education that this site is detailing).  If I ever go to one again, I will be sure contractions are on the agenda.  For example, I could teach that the contraction for &quot;you all&quot; is &quot;y&#039;all.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terance,<br />
If it has worked so well for so long, why the criticism?  I wouldn&#8217;t know what goes on at most conferences, since the funding has largely dried up (it apparently only still exists for the &#8220;educrats&#8221; in the Department of Education that this site is detailing).  If I ever go to one again, I will be sure contractions are on the agenda.  For example, I could teach that the contraction for &#8220;you all&#8221; is &#8220;y&#8217;all.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Deb O'Nare</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/04/25/4-star-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-18895</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb O'Nare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terance,

Right on. The noble efforts of the Department of Education should place its fiscal transactions on a plane above the prying eyes of the taxpayers who fund it. Right on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terance,</p>
<p>Right on. The noble efforts of the Department of Education should place its fiscal transactions on a plane above the prying eyes of the taxpayers who fund it. Right on.</p>
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		<title>By: Terance Booker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terance Booker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, what the heck goes on a a teacher conference anyways? Are ya&#039;ll working on the unifying theory of quantum mechanics? Are you trading previously unknown secrets about how to fill children&#039;s heads full of mush? We aren&#039;t building rockets here, people. Let&#039;s just stick to the basics, reading, writing, arithmetic and discipline with a yard stick. That&#039;s been around for centuries and works pretty well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, what the heck goes on a a teacher conference anyways? Are ya&#8217;ll working on the unifying theory of quantum mechanics? Are you trading previously unknown secrets about how to fill children&#8217;s heads full of mush? We aren&#8217;t building rockets here, people. Let&#8217;s just stick to the basics, reading, writing, arithmetic and discipline with a yard stick. That&#8217;s been around for centuries and works pretty well.</p>
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		<title>By: Girl Sailor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Girl Sailor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tammy,

I care about them wasting 7500 bucks even if you don&#039;t. These have got to be only a few examples of this kind of excess. I&#039;m sure the Dept of Ed covers up the worst of it. Why are public ed higher ups are blowing the money that should be going to educating kids?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tammy,</p>
<p>I care about them wasting 7500 bucks even if you don&#8217;t. These have got to be only a few examples of this kind of excess. I&#8217;m sure the Dept of Ed covers up the worst of it. Why are public ed higher ups are blowing the money that should be going to educating kids?</p>
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		<title>By: Terance Booker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terance Booker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teachers should NOT be going to conferences anyways. They should be at home grading student assignments, attending to domestic duties, and &quot;pleasing&quot; their husbands. We should just go back to the old days when the best teachers were old hags who only needed a pack of Marlboro&#039;s and a rerun of Family Feud to be satisfied.

What has the world come to? don&#039;t ask me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teachers should NOT be going to conferences anyways. They should be at home grading student assignments, attending to domestic duties, and &#8220;pleasing&#8221; their husbands. We should just go back to the old days when the best teachers were old hags who only needed a pack of Marlboro&#8217;s and a rerun of Family Feud to be satisfied.</p>
<p>What has the world come to? don&#8217;t ask me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>tammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah...way to uncover information. The Dept. of Ed spent $7500 on some fancy hotels over some unknown period of time for some unknown reason. 

Way to uncover the facts boys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230;way to uncover information. The Dept. of Ed spent $7500 on some fancy hotels over some unknown period of time for some unknown reason. </p>
<p>Way to uncover the facts boys!</p>
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