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	<title>Comments on: Something&#8217;s Stirring At La Socialista</title>
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	<description>Unfair ... Imbalanced</description>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/02/22/somethings-stirring-at-la-socialista/comment-page-1/#comment-10761</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 03:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So why should the governor care?

An honorable man should disclose. He should and could set an example...then challenge the rest to do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why should the governor care?</p>
<p>An honorable man should disclose. He should and could set an example&#8230;then challenge the rest to do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: A deT.</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/02/22/somethings-stirring-at-la-socialista/comment-page-1/#comment-10749</link>
		<dc:creator>A deT.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly....and Leatherman&#039;s bill doesn&#039;t do that.  It just outlaws &quot;Leadership PACs,&quot; and, of course, any political fund having anything to do with the Governor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly&#8230;.and Leatherman&#8217;s bill doesn&#8217;t do that.  It just outlaws &#8220;Leadership PACs,&#8221; and, of course, any political fund having anything to do with the Governor.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/02/22/somethings-stirring-at-la-socialista/comment-page-1/#comment-10743</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if we start to examine the motives of all those involved the process will stall, and the aim of introducing sunlight into our politics will be lost.

Everyone should disclose. We should call them out by name...everyone in public life should tell who is paying them money, and how much.

Everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if we start to examine the motives of all those involved the process will stall, and the aim of introducing sunlight into our politics will be lost.</p>
<p>Everyone should disclose. We should call them out by name&#8230;everyone in public life should tell who is paying them money, and how much.</p>
<p>Everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/02/22/somethings-stirring-at-la-socialista/comment-page-1/#comment-10729</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain-Feingold gave all the big backdoor campaign funding to the Left, with the rare exception of a few really rich GOP&#039;ers, like T. Boone Pickens (a la Swiftboat Veterans). Look at all the millions raised in Hollywood by Hillary. Not to mention the $15,000-a-pop photo ops with Lindsey when Bush came down here a couple of months ago. This Leatherman bill sounds like a state-level McCain-Feingold---tiny by comparison in scope and size, but kind of on steroids (in the Orwellian hard-left kind of way).
It&#039;s not about rich versus poor. It&#039;s about 1 single rich man who deviated from the party line. Now his masters---and let&#039;s be honest about it: the really really wealthy---are out to get him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain-Feingold gave all the big backdoor campaign funding to the Left, with the rare exception of a few really rich GOP&#8217;ers, like T. Boone Pickens (a la Swiftboat Veterans). Look at all the millions raised in Hollywood by Hillary. Not to mention the $15,000-a-pop photo ops with Lindsey when Bush came down here a couple of months ago. This Leatherman bill sounds like a state-level McCain-Feingold&#8212;tiny by comparison in scope and size, but kind of on steroids (in the Orwellian hard-left kind of way).<br />
It&#8217;s not about rich versus poor. It&#8217;s about 1 single rich man who deviated from the party line. Now his masters&#8212;and let&#8217;s be honest about it: the really really wealthy&#8212;are out to get him.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/02/22/somethings-stirring-at-la-socialista/comment-page-1/#comment-10717</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, all that Yankee money is pretty good for the local economy.  I say, keep it coming. New Politicians with new money is always good for us po&#039; aw shucks kinda folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, all that Yankee money is pretty good for the local economy.  I say, keep it coming. New Politicians with new money is always good for us po&#8217; aw shucks kinda folks.</p>
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		<title>By: A. deT</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/02/22/somethings-stirring-at-la-socialista/comment-page-1/#comment-10711</link>
		<dc:creator>A. deT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle has hit the nail on the head:  let these people take money, in any amount, from whomever and wherever they please.  Just make them provide absolute and immediate disclosure.  You want to take $1,000,000 from George Soros?  Fine, just let the voters know about it.

As for Hmmmm..&#039;s point about the rules being equal but reality being different .... that&#039;s hardly a sound basis for policy, is it?   It is government&#039;s job to make sure the rules are the same, and evenly applied, not to spare you from the &quot;realities&quot; of having less money than somebody else.  Again I say that at the end of that line of reasoning is government funded (and regulated) speech.

Hmmm does raise a good question question regarding the rights of &quot;outsiders&quot; to participate in our political process. Without agreeing, I wonder if he/she would favor no limits on contributions from the resident obscenely rich. 

Finally, I don&#039;t assume that money from outside elements makes a better lawmaker. I just trust that if we have a full and open discussion on the issues --- which in this day and age takes money, and lots of it sometimes -- eventually the system will improve.  The campaign finance rules prevent the market for ideas from functioning properly.

I am shocked that some proponents of this new bill (Mr. Gervais et al.) have failed to question why the same legislators whom those pundits so regularly trash have suddenly &quot;seen the light.&quot;  Is (insert name of lawmaker regularly accused of being incompetent here) really been moved to sudden enlightenment by the anti-Howard Rich blogosphere?  Or is it more likely that they have figured out that this legislation will help them keep their jobs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle has hit the nail on the head:  let these people take money, in any amount, from whomever and wherever they please.  Just make them provide absolute and immediate disclosure.  You want to take $1,000,000 from George Soros?  Fine, just let the voters know about it.</p>
<p>As for Hmmmm..&#8217;s point about the rules being equal but reality being different &#8230;. that&#8217;s hardly a sound basis for policy, is it?   It is government&#8217;s job to make sure the rules are the same, and evenly applied, not to spare you from the &#8220;realities&#8221; of having less money than somebody else.  Again I say that at the end of that line of reasoning is government funded (and regulated) speech.</p>
<p>Hmmm does raise a good question question regarding the rights of &#8220;outsiders&#8221; to participate in our political process. Without agreeing, I wonder if he/she would favor no limits on contributions from the resident obscenely rich. </p>
<p>Finally, I don&#8217;t assume that money from outside elements makes a better lawmaker. I just trust that if we have a full and open discussion on the issues &#8212; which in this day and age takes money, and lots of it sometimes &#8212; eventually the system will improve.  The campaign finance rules prevent the market for ideas from functioning properly.</p>
<p>I am shocked that some proponents of this new bill (Mr. Gervais et al.) have failed to question why the same legislators whom those pundits so regularly trash have suddenly &#8220;seen the light.&#8221;  Is (insert name of lawmaker regularly accused of being incompetent here) really been moved to sudden enlightenment by the anti-Howard Rich blogosphere?  Or is it more likely that they have figured out that this legislation will help them keep their jobs?</p>
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		<title>By: Helvidius</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/02/22/somethings-stirring-at-la-socialista/comment-page-1/#comment-10688</link>
		<dc:creator>Helvidius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 06:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, government rules for speech.  Great idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, government rules for speech.  Great idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmmm...</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/02/22/somethings-stirring-at-la-socialista/comment-page-1/#comment-10676</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmmmm...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A deT.,

And why do you assume that someone will be a better lawmaker because they get thousands of dollars from an outside influence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A deT.,</p>
<p>And why do you assume that someone will be a better lawmaker because they get thousands of dollars from an outside influence?</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmmm...</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/02/22/somethings-stirring-at-la-socialista/comment-page-1/#comment-10675</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmmmm...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A deT.,

You are right. The rules are the same. It&#039;s the reality that is different. So tell me why you think a New Yorker should have more influence in a South Carolina election than a South Carolinian? And you assume that all this money is being pumped into opposition rather than incumbents. As for &quot;obscenely rich,&quot; you&#039;ll have to ask Helvidius what that means. That&#039;s who I was quoting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A deT.,</p>
<p>You are right. The rules are the same. It&#8217;s the reality that is different. So tell me why you think a New Yorker should have more influence in a South Carolina election than a South Carolinian? And you assume that all this money is being pumped into opposition rather than incumbents. As for &#8220;obscenely rich,&#8221; you&#8217;ll have to ask Helvidius what that means. That&#8217;s who I was quoting.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/02/22/somethings-stirring-at-la-socialista/comment-page-1/#comment-10646</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle, we don&#039;t do full disclosure down here.  It&#039;s the law because Queen Jean said so.  Don&#039;t believe it?  Go ask her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle, we don&#8217;t do full disclosure down here.  It&#8217;s the law because Queen Jean said so.  Don&#8217;t believe it?  Go ask her.</p>
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