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	<title>Comments on: Controversial Salary Report Was Late</title>
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	<description>Unfair ... Imbalanced</description>
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		<title>By: Mr. Speaker is a liberal</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/02/05/controversial-salary-report-was-late/comment-page-1/#comment-8858</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Speaker is a liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why didn&#039;t all 9 sign off on the pay increase?  Why was it over one-year late?  Who were the other two members? 

John Braund is a guy from Dorchester.  I think he is involved with the tax payers association.  (strange he would vote for it.)

It does look like some impropriety since some of the folks getting the pay increase, also signed off on this report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didn&#8217;t all 9 sign off on the pay increase?  Why was it over one-year late?  Who were the other two members? </p>
<p>John Braund is a guy from Dorchester.  I think he is involved with the tax payers association.  (strange he would vote for it.)</p>
<p>It does look like some impropriety since some of the folks getting the pay increase, also signed off on this report.</p>
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		<title>By: StanD828</title>
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		<dc:creator>StanD828</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was late submitting an affidavit to the Court once because it was impossible to provide what they wanted, plus the Rules could be interpreted in a way that wouldn&#039;t have required one.  Within a few days the Clerk&#039;s office called...I thought poor Betsy Stevenson was going to have a nervous breakdown because I actually bothered to explain why I wasn&#039;t sending it.  &quot;But, you can&#039;t just ignore the Supreme Court,&quot; she told me.  Yes, I can, and I did.  So they held me in contempt.  So now Jean Heifer Toal is over a year late with her report....but that&#039;s ok.  

Seriously, though, I don&#039;t disagree with all the recommendations.  I do think our legislators should get a raise, the rest not so much, but as usual, it seems like the Court presents these things without explanation and in a way that makes them appear worse than they are.  Kind of like the Bar exam controversy.  

It also reminds me of a couple years back when it was suggested during the Bar convention that public defenders and appointed lawyers weren&#039;t making enough at $75 an hour.  Of course, I don&#039;t disagree with that...their caseloads are excessive...but that didn&#039;t exactly play very well to the general public.  It was embarassing and just more ammunition for folks who believe all lawyers are greedy.  It shouldn&#039;t have taken an Einstein to figure out what it would look like in the papers, and the same goes for this.  But they don&#039;t care.

Even so, does this thing even have a chance in this economy?  Surely if it is considered and passed there will be outrage.  Oh, wait...I forgot...this is South Carolina...we&#039;ll just bend over and take it as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was late submitting an affidavit to the Court once because it was impossible to provide what they wanted, plus the Rules could be interpreted in a way that wouldn&#8217;t have required one.  Within a few days the Clerk&#8217;s office called&#8230;I thought poor Betsy Stevenson was going to have a nervous breakdown because I actually bothered to explain why I wasn&#8217;t sending it.  &#8220;But, you can&#8217;t just ignore the Supreme Court,&#8221; she told me.  Yes, I can, and I did.  So they held me in contempt.  So now Jean Heifer Toal is over a year late with her report&#8230;.but that&#8217;s ok.  </p>
<p>Seriously, though, I don&#8217;t disagree with all the recommendations.  I do think our legislators should get a raise, the rest not so much, but as usual, it seems like the Court presents these things without explanation and in a way that makes them appear worse than they are.  Kind of like the Bar exam controversy.  </p>
<p>It also reminds me of a couple years back when it was suggested during the Bar convention that public defenders and appointed lawyers weren&#8217;t making enough at $75 an hour.  Of course, I don&#8217;t disagree with that&#8230;their caseloads are excessive&#8230;but that didn&#8217;t exactly play very well to the general public.  It was embarassing and just more ammunition for folks who believe all lawyers are greedy.  It shouldn&#8217;t have taken an Einstein to figure out what it would look like in the papers, and the same goes for this.  But they don&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>Even so, does this thing even have a chance in this economy?  Surely if it is considered and passed there will be outrage.  Oh, wait&#8230;I forgot&#8230;this is South Carolina&#8230;we&#8217;ll just bend over and take it as usual.</p>
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		<title>By: Believe It Not (a.k.a. Sic Willie's Stalker)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Believe It Not (a.k.a. Sic Willie's Stalker)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ask sic(k) willie about strippers. He can tell you about the profession.

You see, for 2 months after the gub&#039;ner fired him, sic(k) willie worked in drag as a stripper at www.derrieresclub.com in Myrtle Beach.

He gave discount table dances to truck drivers and elected officials. 

Word is that&#039;s where he got the bogus tip a Midland&#039;s elected official has a Strom problem.  Either from a drunk truck driver or an elected official. Or, maybe from an elected official&#039;s stooge. Who cares.  

You see, sic(k) willie believes anything a truck driver or a political stooge tells him, as long as they stuff cash in his panties.

Now, just try to picture sic(k) willie in a thong or g-string.  Yuck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask sic(k) willie about strippers. He can tell you about the profession.</p>
<p>You see, for 2 months after the gub&#8217;ner fired him, sic(k) willie worked in drag as a stripper at <a href="http://www.derrieresclub.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.derrieresclub.com</a> in Myrtle Beach.</p>
<p>He gave discount table dances to truck drivers and elected officials. </p>
<p>Word is that&#8217;s where he got the bogus tip a Midland&#8217;s elected official has a Strom problem.  Either from a drunk truck driver or an elected official. Or, maybe from an elected official&#8217;s stooge. Who cares.  </p>
<p>You see, sic(k) willie believes anything a truck driver or a political stooge tells him, as long as they stuff cash in his panties.</p>
<p>Now, just try to picture sic(k) willie in a thong or g-string.  Yuck.</p>
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		<title>By: piepton</title>
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		<dc:creator>piepton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe you would degrade strippers by comparing them to legislators and lobbyists. At least strippers do honest work for their money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe you would degrade strippers by comparing them to legislators and lobbyists. At least strippers do honest work for their money.</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/02/05/controversial-salary-report-was-late/comment-page-1/#comment-8805</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a matter of record, most dancers at strip bars pay to work at the strip clubs.

Why don&#039;t  members of the General Assemby have to pay to be in the GA? The conditions are the same...your job allows you to make obscene amounts of money for engaging in dishonarable acts. The more vulgar the act, the more you make. 

So it make sense...new members pay 10 grand a year, sub-committe chairmen pay 15, chairman pay 20...

And the lobbyist should have to pay too. $25 grand a year will be a good start.$50,000 if you lobby for healthcare, or tobacco or insurance. $75,000 if you have ever been described as Leatehermans bitch.

Face it...they are all whores, selling thier honor for profit. So why not make them pay?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a matter of record, most dancers at strip bars pay to work at the strip clubs.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t  members of the General Assemby have to pay to be in the GA? The conditions are the same&#8230;your job allows you to make obscene amounts of money for engaging in dishonarable acts. The more vulgar the act, the more you make. </p>
<p>So it make sense&#8230;new members pay 10 grand a year, sub-committe chairmen pay 15, chairman pay 20&#8230;</p>
<p>And the lobbyist should have to pay too. $25 grand a year will be a good start.$50,000 if you lobby for healthcare, or tobacco or insurance. $75,000 if you have ever been described as Leatehermans bitch.</p>
<p>Face it&#8230;they are all whores, selling thier honor for profit. So why not make them pay?</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be a lawyer and turn something into Queen Jean over a year late..... right.... Oh.  That&#039;s okay. It&#039;s all discretionary in her court anyway.  Who&#039;s your Daddy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be a lawyer and turn something into Queen Jean over a year late&#8230;.. right&#8230;. Oh.  That&#8217;s okay. It&#8217;s all discretionary in her court anyway.  Who&#8217;s your Daddy?</p>
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		<title>By: Gal Leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gal Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know little about admin/judicial/exec salaries.  However, regarding legislative salaries, does it change the analysis to know that the base salary has not increased since 1982? I haven&#039;t done the math, but annualized I think &quot;gargantuan&quot; becomes a misnomer.

This is a classic debate.  Do we pay legislators (judges, cabinet members, governors) salaries competitive with the private sector?  In favor is the argument that if we want better people in government, we should be willing to pay for it.  The contra, obviously, is to ask whether we really want people who are in it for the money vs. the public service.

No good answer here.  Bottom line:  there are plenty of people who would take these jobs at current salary levels.  That must be some indication that they are not underpaid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know little about admin/judicial/exec salaries.  However, regarding legislative salaries, does it change the analysis to know that the base salary has not increased since 1982? I haven&#8217;t done the math, but annualized I think &#8220;gargantuan&#8221; becomes a misnomer.</p>
<p>This is a classic debate.  Do we pay legislators (judges, cabinet members, governors) salaries competitive with the private sector?  In favor is the argument that if we want better people in government, we should be willing to pay for it.  The contra, obviously, is to ask whether we really want people who are in it for the money vs. the public service.</p>
<p>No good answer here.  Bottom line:  there are plenty of people who would take these jobs at current salary levels.  That must be some indication that they are not underpaid.</p>
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		<title>By: fitsnews</title>
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		<dc:creator>fitsnews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>67 Chevy,

It&#039;s not our fault that you&#039;re obviously too retarded to figure out how to scroll down or click on a link. 

1980 called, dude. It wants YOU back.

Anyway, we would - and did - classify proposed pay raises of 53%, 47%, 41% or 20% as &quot;gargantuan,&quot; particularly when you compare them with the 0.8% growth in the average South Carolinian&#039;s paycheck last year.

-FITSNews</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>67 Chevy,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not our fault that you&#8217;re obviously too retarded to figure out how to scroll down or click on a link. </p>
<p>1980 called, dude. It wants YOU back.</p>
<p>Anyway, we would &#8211; and did &#8211; classify proposed pay raises of 53%, 47%, 41% or 20% as &#8220;gargantuan,&#8221; particularly when you compare them with the 0.8% growth in the average South Carolinian&#8217;s paycheck last year.</p>
<p>-FITSNews</p>
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		<title>By: 67chevy</title>
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		<dc:creator>67chevy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>obviously I didn&#039;t read the post before this one. do us a favor and not post either of these, will ye?

Whatever though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>obviously I didn&#8217;t read the post before this one. do us a favor and not post either of these, will ye?</p>
<p>Whatever though.</p>
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		<title>By: 67chevy</title>
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		<dc:creator>67chevy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gargantuan pay raises? What does that mean? It means nothing, and is very poor reporting.  Kind of like me saying, &#039;FITSnews becomes irrelevant in a gargantuan way&#039;. It doesn&#039;t really mean anything, but it could stick in peoples heads.

So get off your ass and let&#039;s have some empirical data on those raises there, sonny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gargantuan pay raises? What does that mean? It means nothing, and is very poor reporting.  Kind of like me saying, &#8216;FITSnews becomes irrelevant in a gargantuan way&#8217;. It doesn&#8217;t really mean anything, but it could stick in peoples heads.</p>
<p>So get off your ass and let&#8217;s have some empirical data on those raises there, sonny.</p>
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