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		<title>By: Over it all</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/01/25/shealy-to-run-anti-sanford-candidate-slate/#comment-8081</link>
		<dc:creator>Over it all</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honcho,

Learn to read. It will save time for us all.

I want ALL nonprofits brought into the sunlight. Including those run by the House and Senate caucuses, their members, PACS, etc. There is simply no excuse for anything else.

The mantra ought to be disclose, disclose, disclose. And the Governor can show leadership by starting it all. Disclose, disclose, disclose...and in doing so allowing the people of SC will see who it is that actually runs SC.

But of course the Governor has many out-of-state paymasters so I doubt he will ever disclose, let alone provide leadership for disclosure by others. In fact, the shame of Mark Sanford is that when given the opportunity to lead he has forfeited that opportunity and instead chosen to sit on the sidelines and howl about those that have chosen to act. He could create a climate that would require action by the powerful…but he will not. 

That is Mark Sanford…a waste of a man with great promise at a time when we, the people of SC, need such a man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honcho,</p>
<p>Learn to read. It will save time for us all.</p>
<p>I want ALL nonprofits brought into the sunlight. Including those run by the House and Senate caucuses, their members, PACS, etc. There is simply no excuse for anything else.</p>
<p>The mantra ought to be disclose, disclose, disclose. And the Governor can show leadership by starting it all. Disclose, disclose, disclose&#8230;and in doing so allowing the people of SC will see who it is that actually runs SC.</p>
<p>But of course the Governor has many out-of-state paymasters so I doubt he will ever disclose, let alone provide leadership for disclosure by others. In fact, the shame of Mark Sanford is that when given the opportunity to lead he has forfeited that opportunity and instead chosen to sit on the sidelines and howl about those that have chosen to act. He could create a climate that would require action by the powerful…but he will not. </p>
<p>That is Mark Sanford…a waste of a man with great promise at a time when we, the people of SC, need such a man.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Honcho</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/01/25/shealy-to-run-anti-sanford-candidate-slate/#comment-8063</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Honcho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 05:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"“Prove it or it didn’t happen” that’s rich, really rich, O.J. was never ‘proven guilty’ but le’me guess, you are one of those conspiracy theorist who believe he actually did do it right? (See how fun that game is)."

That's a brilliant response.  I did not make one claim that I could not back up.  So let's make an absolutely ridiculous argument to diminish that very reasonable point.

Let's be perfectly clear.  There are a number of politicians, including those in House and Senate leadership positions, who raise money through a network of PACs and even local non-profits.  No one here seems to want to include the whole bunch in the "Let's see the books" chant.

What I am saying is what's good for the goose should be good for the gander and all of them ought to open their books.

So someone says six non-profits and names one.  What are the other five?  That's what I thought.  Make a claim and we'll pretend it's the truth.

Yes - anyone who defends the Governor must work for him.  Let me guess, because no one you know likes him.  Right Senator/Representative ?????  Wake up and stop being so paranoid.

You girls have fun with your conspiracy theories.  The helicopter noise is starting to give me a headache.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“Prove it or it didn’t happen” that’s rich, really rich, O.J. was never ‘proven guilty’ but le’me guess, you are one of those conspiracy theorist who believe he actually did do it right? (See how fun that game is).&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a brilliant response.  I did not make one claim that I could not back up.  So let&#8217;s make an absolutely ridiculous argument to diminish that very reasonable point.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s be perfectly clear.  There are a number of politicians, including those in House and Senate leadership positions, who raise money through a network of PACs and even local non-profits.  No one here seems to want to include the whole bunch in the &#8220;Let&#8217;s see the books&#8221; chant.</p>
<p>What I am saying is what&#8217;s good for the goose should be good for the gander and all of them ought to open their books.</p>
<p>So someone says six non-profits and names one.  What are the other five?  That&#8217;s what I thought.  Make a claim and we&#8217;ll pretend it&#8217;s the truth.</p>
<p>Yes - anyone who defends the Governor must work for him.  Let me guess, because no one you know likes him.  Right Senator/Representative ?????  Wake up and stop being so paranoid.</p>
<p>You girls have fun with your conspiracy theories.  The helicopter noise is starting to give me a headache.</p>
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		<title>By: Over it all</title>
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		<dc:creator>Over it all</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 03:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Honcho,

 I agree with you on your point that they should ALL disclose every nickel given to them, and how it was spent. And I will go one step further, every dime spent by a lobbyist or even the more secretive “business consultant” (as they are called) should be reported on-line during the same calendar week as the contribution or expense was made.

Simply put, you will never find me on the wrong side of disclosure. The public has a complete right to know everything.

Now, much of the nonsense you spout is not worth notice, but I will say this. Reform SC is doing a fair job at disclosure, except it is minimizing its expenses at every turn, and therefore its reporting is not accurate. But I can pass on that for now, as the larger point is that Reform SC is but one of at least 6 nonprofits that are fronting for the governor and so it hardly matters that one is partially respectable. You see, we have all played hide and seek as kids, so we understand misdirection.

So, at your staff meeting next week please tell the governor that nonprofits were so  5 years ago, and that the public is on to them now. He may not be force to disclose now, but at some point he will. So, as they say…sooner is better than later, and now is best of all. 

Yes, Mr. Honcho, it is difficult to hide upwards of 6 million dollars in a small state like SC. Loose lips and all that…I am sure you understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Honcho,</p>
<p> I agree with you on your point that they should ALL disclose every nickel given to them, and how it was spent. And I will go one step further, every dime spent by a lobbyist or even the more secretive “business consultant” (as they are called) should be reported on-line during the same calendar week as the contribution or expense was made.</p>
<p>Simply put, you will never find me on the wrong side of disclosure. The public has a complete right to know everything.</p>
<p>Now, much of the nonsense you spout is not worth notice, but I will say this. Reform SC is doing a fair job at disclosure, except it is minimizing its expenses at every turn, and therefore its reporting is not accurate. But I can pass on that for now, as the larger point is that Reform SC is but one of at least 6 nonprofits that are fronting for the governor and so it hardly matters that one is partially respectable. You see, we have all played hide and seek as kids, so we understand misdirection.</p>
<p>So, at your staff meeting next week please tell the governor that nonprofits were so  5 years ago, and that the public is on to them now. He may not be force to disclose now, but at some point he will. So, as they say…sooner is better than later, and now is best of all. </p>
<p>Yes, Mr. Honcho, it is difficult to hide upwards of 6 million dollars in a small state like SC. Loose lips and all that…I am sure you understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanford VP for Obama?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanford VP for Obama?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 02:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Honcho,

You noted "I guess the saying, “You hate the ones you fear” should become the new state motto."

Seriously when are S.C. citizens going to wake up and understand their governor is someone they should live in fear of AND be in love with for it instead of 'hate.'

"Prove it or it didn't happen" that's rich, really rich, O.J. was never 'proven guilty' but le'me guess, you are one of those conspiracy theorist who believe he actually did do it right? (See how fun that game is).

Also, if something is not-proven, because the person in question is unwilling to reveal the facts of the situation...?  Enjoy your weekend before having to get back to the Gov's staff on Monday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Honcho,</p>
<p>You noted &#8220;I guess the saying, “You hate the ones you fear” should become the new state motto.&#8221;</p>
<p>Seriously when are S.C. citizens going to wake up and understand their governor is someone they should live in fear of AND be in love with for it instead of &#8216;hate.&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8220;Prove it or it didn&#8217;t happen&#8221; that&#8217;s rich, really rich, O.J. was never &#8216;proven guilty&#8217; but le&#8217;me guess, you are one of those conspiracy theorist who believe he actually did do it right? (See how fun that game is).</p>
<p>Also, if something is not-proven, because the person in question is unwilling to reveal the facts of the situation&#8230;?  Enjoy your weekend before having to get back to the Gov&#8217;s staff on Monday.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Honcho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Honcho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see - so you are accusing him of failing to disclose where he gets his money.

Except it's on the Elections Commissions website for his campaign as required by law.

It is also interesting that Reform SC has a $3,500 contribution limit and is voluntarily disclosing fundraising and spending.

How many of those leadership PACs do that?  You aren't asking what Dan Cooper, Hugh Leatherman, Bobby Harrell, Harvey Peeler or Glenn McConnell are doing with the money they raise through those PACs.  Or better yet, where funds for the House or Senate Republican Caucus come from or where they go.

No sir, you are a either a liar about not being a member of the House or Senate (or perhaps staff?) or you a raging idiot.  Either way, if you are, in fact, "Over it all" then you can actually show proof and you will "zealously watch" ALL of the people who are supposed to serve you.

I anxiously await your demands for a complete accounting of ALL fund raising in Columbia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see - so you are accusing him of failing to disclose where he gets his money.</p>
<p>Except it&#8217;s on the Elections Commissions website for his campaign as required by law.</p>
<p>It is also interesting that Reform SC has a $3,500 contribution limit and is voluntarily disclosing fundraising and spending.</p>
<p>How many of those leadership PACs do that?  You aren&#8217;t asking what Dan Cooper, Hugh Leatherman, Bobby Harrell, Harvey Peeler or Glenn McConnell are doing with the money they raise through those PACs.  Or better yet, where funds for the House or Senate Republican Caucus come from or where they go.</p>
<p>No sir, you are a either a liar about not being a member of the House or Senate (or perhaps staff?) or you a raging idiot.  Either way, if you are, in fact, &#8220;Over it all&#8221; then you can actually show proof and you will &#8220;zealously watch&#8221; ALL of the people who are supposed to serve you.</p>
<p>I anxiously await your demands for a complete accounting of ALL fund raising in Columbia.</p>
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		<title>By: Over it all</title>
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		<dc:creator>Over it all</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Mike Honcho…

I am not a member of the general assembly…I am a taxpayer, and zealous watcher of those that are supposed to be serving the people of SC.

Mark Sanford is raising millions in his nonprofits. But he is the governor of SC and the head of the SC Republican Party. He lives in a house paid for by the taxpayers and they pay for his transportation and security and many other things. He makes decisions every day that affect the people of SC for today and for many years to come.
We have a right to know his paymasters.  We have a right to know who they are, and their identities will tell us why they are giving wealth to him. He is supposed to be on OUR payroll, but as many other elected officials and public people are doing he has chosen the loopholes in the nonprofit legislation to raise money without oversight. 

Al Gore, Al Sharpton, Jeb Bush, Bill Clinton…and many many others are doing the same thing. Under the darkness of complicated legality, they exchange the public trust for private paymasters. An honorable man would disclose this information…but our system does not require honor of our elected officials.  It only necessitates the narcissism essential to thrust oneself onto the pubic in a haze of ego and arrogance. And as his 5 years in office shows, Mark Sanford has shown abundance of both.

An honorable man would disclose this information, and he would do it quickly and completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Mike Honcho…</p>
<p>I am not a member of the general assembly…I am a taxpayer, and zealous watcher of those that are supposed to be serving the people of SC.</p>
<p>Mark Sanford is raising millions in his nonprofits. But he is the governor of SC and the head of the SC Republican Party. He lives in a house paid for by the taxpayers and they pay for his transportation and security and many other things. He makes decisions every day that affect the people of SC for today and for many years to come.<br />
We have a right to know his paymasters.  We have a right to know who they are, and their identities will tell us why they are giving wealth to him. He is supposed to be on OUR payroll, but as many other elected officials and public people are doing he has chosen the loopholes in the nonprofit legislation to raise money without oversight. </p>
<p>Al Gore, Al Sharpton, Jeb Bush, Bill Clinton…and many many others are doing the same thing. Under the darkness of complicated legality, they exchange the public trust for private paymasters. An honorable man would disclose this information…but our system does not require honor of our elected officials.  It only necessitates the narcissism essential to thrust oneself onto the pubic in a haze of ego and arrogance. And as his 5 years in office shows, Mark Sanford has shown abundance of both.</p>
<p>An honorable man would disclose this information, and he would do it quickly and completely.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Honcho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Honcho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over it all said, "The answer is in the 6 501c3 nonprofits…those are the people that secretly donate to Sanford…and those are his TRUE masters. Taxpayers and citizens be damned…Mark Sanford sold us all for his own fortune and glory."

Prove it or it didn't happen.  Which member of the House or Senate are you?

Wow, the Sanford haters are out in force.

I guess the saying, "You hate the ones you fear" should become the new state motto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over it all said, &#8220;The answer is in the 6 501c3 nonprofits…those are the people that secretly donate to Sanford…and those are his TRUE masters. Taxpayers and citizens be damned…Mark Sanford sold us all for his own fortune and glory.&#8221;</p>
<p>Prove it or it didn&#8217;t happen.  Which member of the House or Senate are you?</p>
<p>Wow, the Sanford haters are out in force.</p>
<p>I guess the saying, &#8220;You hate the ones you fear&#8221; should become the new state motto.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Sewell</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/01/25/shealy-to-run-anti-sanford-candidate-slate/#comment-8023</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Sewell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The long established S.C. political consulting machine is the problem: no new ideas, bad data, cookie-cutter operations, and bad candidates. The same-old, same-old produces the same unacceptable results, which frankly does not benefit the folks of South Carolina or further the Republican agenda of change for the better.

The time is now for new consulting firms to step up and step out. With young minds like Boling, Piper, Folks, Ragley and others, there is certainly not a lack of young talent in this state. It is time for them to make their mark. They understand how to recruit on principles, not on dollars in the candidate's pocket. With the talent pool in SC for both young consultants and young candidates, there is no reason to rely on the traditional establishment any longer. It makes common sense that if you have a good candidate, you can raise the cash necessary to win.

The Huckabee campaign is the perfect example of performing at the top on a shoestring budget, bravo Chip, Drake &#38; Adam. 'Doing more with less' is as much a business approach and state of mind as it is a way to govern a State.

On the issues, Conservatives must recognize that we must first cut the waste in our state government.

It is entirely possible to improve services while cutting both waste and taxes. Don't get me wrong, this will not have the Democrats dancing in the street; it will be quite the opposite. This is the only common sense approach to improving the landscape of South Carolina to encourage new business development, create new jobs and improve the quality of life for all South Carolinian's.

~Jeffrey Sewell
SCHotline.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The long established S.C. political consulting machine is the problem: no new ideas, bad data, cookie-cutter operations, and bad candidates. The same-old, same-old produces the same unacceptable results, which frankly does not benefit the folks of South Carolina or further the Republican agenda of change for the better.</p>
<p>The time is now for new consulting firms to step up and step out. With young minds like Boling, Piper, Folks, Ragley and others, there is certainly not a lack of young talent in this state. It is time for them to make their mark. They understand how to recruit on principles, not on dollars in the candidate&#8217;s pocket. With the talent pool in SC for both young consultants and young candidates, there is no reason to rely on the traditional establishment any longer. It makes common sense that if you have a good candidate, you can raise the cash necessary to win.</p>
<p>The Huckabee campaign is the perfect example of performing at the top on a shoestring budget, bravo Chip, Drake &amp; Adam. &#8216;Doing more with less&#8217; is as much a business approach and state of mind as it is a way to govern a State.</p>
<p>On the issues, Conservatives must recognize that we must first cut the waste in our state government.</p>
<p>It is entirely possible to improve services while cutting both waste and taxes. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, this will not have the Democrats dancing in the street; it will be quite the opposite. This is the only common sense approach to improving the landscape of South Carolina to encourage new business development, create new jobs and improve the quality of life for all South Carolinian&#8217;s.</p>
<p>~Jeffrey Sewell<br />
SCHotline.com</p>
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		<title>By: Over it all</title>
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		<dc:creator>Over it all</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stevenson is right...

And I will go a step further. IMNO Mark Sanford's legacy will be that he sold our state to out of state companies and wealthy individuals just as the Republican leadership in DC has sold out to the "K" Street lobbyist.

From  the Commerce Dept to Dept of Health and Human Services to the Dept of Insurance, Sanford has thrown open the doors to anybody with a fat wallet…with little or no concern about the people that are suppose to receive the services. The only thing for sure is that these out of state interests are getting RICH.

The answer is in the 6 501c3 nonprofits…those are the people that secretly donate to Sanford…and those are his TRUE masters. Taxpayers and citizens be damned…Mark Sanford sold us all for his own fortune and glory.

If this were not true, he would certainly open the books to his nonprofits, and show us his contributors…but of course he won’t, and can’t. He has lots to hide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stevenson is right&#8230;</p>
<p>And I will go a step further. IMNO Mark Sanford&#8217;s legacy will be that he sold our state to out of state companies and wealthy individuals just as the Republican leadership in DC has sold out to the &#8220;K&#8221; Street lobbyist.</p>
<p>From  the Commerce Dept to Dept of Health and Human Services to the Dept of Insurance, Sanford has thrown open the doors to anybody with a fat wallet…with little or no concern about the people that are suppose to receive the services. The only thing for sure is that these out of state interests are getting RICH.</p>
<p>The answer is in the 6 501c3 nonprofits…those are the people that secretly donate to Sanford…and those are his TRUE masters. Taxpayers and citizens be damned…Mark Sanford sold us all for his own fortune and glory.</p>
<p>If this were not true, he would certainly open the books to his nonprofits, and show us his contributors…but of course he won’t, and can’t. He has lots to hide.</p>
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		<title>By: Coke Stevenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coke Stevenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 06:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is all about the money and getting even for a certain state senator leaking something to the media.  

At least do a better job this year.  Those folks from out of state are paying good money to buy our legislature.  

But,  cut the bullshit about how much you care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is all about the money and getting even for a certain state senator leaking something to the media.  </p>
<p>At least do a better job this year.  Those folks from out of state are paying good money to buy our legislature.  </p>
<p>But,  cut the bullshit about how much you care.</p>
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